The 130 ZeroG guide (same mold as Cochise) is softer than a 120 Cochise.
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The 130 ZeroG guide (same mold as Cochise) is softer than a 120 Cochise.
Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by XavierD
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Just for another data point, I'd say the ZeroG Tour Pro with stock liner feels like less boot than the 2017+ Cochise 120 with stock liner (I have both). I am curious what the Tour Pro would be like with a beefier Intuition, such as the Tour Wrap.Quote:
Originally Posted by XavierD
Same. Kinda thinking of the power wrap and then i'd have a boot with a liner quiver.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1000-oaks
Luxury adds 5pts. Tour Wrap adds 10. The ridiculous Red ProTongue makes it brick like and I hesitate to guess as to what it adds.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1000-oaks
I skied ZGTP with stock liner for 30+days till the liner softened up noticeably then alternated Luxury and Tour Wrap
Which version Luxury, low volume? Can't imagine getting a medium stuffed in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeLau
How is ROM with tour wrap liner?
Low. The Medium felt crampedQuote:
Originally Posted by 1000-oaks
Excellent. Was pleasantly surprisedQuote:
Originally Posted by XavierD
I'll be able to report back on this - sort of. The comparison will be with the Scarpa/Intuitions that came with my Mango/Maestrales. I never molded the stock ZG Tour Pro liners.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1000-oaks
[edit] Looks as if Lee has you covered.
... Thom
What tongue liners with walk mode have you guys tried and if it's intuition, what thickness? Anyone tried the Maestrale RS liner?
The tour wrap liner is shockingly good for me as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeLau
I used a Scarpa F1 in mine last season as the stock liner was too cold for me. F1 liner was a bit thin, skied softer than stock, but toured much better.Quote:
Originally Posted by LawndartGustav
Has anyone experience any slop in the cuff rivets/joint? Was playing with my pair the other day and noticed some movement :( skied about 30 days
Did you go up a size for the liner or same size as shell (Ie, 8 liner in 26.5 zerog)?Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeLau
I got some Tour Pro's near the end of the season and it didn't feel at all like any change in ROM or actual effort to tour (two very different things). Half of that was because my Backland Carbon liners were beyond done, and the stock Tecnica liners fit them perfectly.Quote:
Originally Posted by LawndartGustav
Xavier I used a sz 26 Tour Wrap in a sz 26 shell and a packed out sz 27 liner that had previously been in a Vulcan sz 27 shell also in the ZGTP. Both worked fineQuote:
Originally Posted by XavierD
Sorry, I think this has been discussed, but the Tour Wraps are warmer the stock 0G liners?Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeLau
Oh I forgot to say the Pro Tongues that I put in my boots were the regular thickness.
Thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeLau
My boot guy seems to think that 26 Tour Wraps are for me in my 25.5 Z-G shell. My shell fit is about 12mm.
In the Tour Wrap thread @Leelau is reporting success with 27 Tour Wraps in a 26.5 Z-G shell - post #21:
https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...d.php?t=319494
We'll see in a few weeks when the full size assortment arrives at his shop, and I'll update that thread.
... Thom
Do these boots run longer like the Cochise and old ZeroG series? If so, sizing up the liner makes good sense.
I'm not sure.
What I can say is that a 25/25.5 Zero G shell is perhaps 3-4 mm longer than the same "size" Hawx XTD shell (2018/19 boots).
... Thom
I never thought any of the old Cochise or Zero G ran long. People talked themselves into thinking they were long because of the bsl size.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lindahl
These boots fit like other boots of the same size number. I’ve put size 26 powerwrap and race fx in my 26’s. Will be getting 26 tour wrap, they were out end of last season so I went with race fx which I actually really liked.
The Atomic Hawx and Backland are both shorter (internally) at the same mondo size than the Cochise and old ZeroG molds. I’m pretty sure the Lange XT or whatever they call it now is also shorter.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliBrit