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FWIW, that's the trade I would point people toward above any other. Clean work (for the trades), pays well, and tends to attract folks with a little more going on upstairs. Wiring a commercial building takes a bit more brain power than making sure that you don't have leaks and that all your shit is flowing downhill.
That being said, I hope he's comfortable with heights and big ladders.
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In America, those tasks get farmed out to the business owner's wife/gf, who does them without compensation. I've seen it firsthand several times.
And the end result of that attitude toward art and artists is a country and society that are reprehensibly ugly in every way, shape and form. America!
so mrs Coors does it eh ?
the writing jingles, label &case art
I'd like to see you run that one past mrs glademaster,
you be eating takeout pizza and sleeping in the garage tonight
They offered no experience $60k with training and benefits with guaranteed $50/hour after 2 years and claimed over $200k for their full cert guys.
There's lots of IT/software jobs around here that pay less than $60k. So it's relevant.
Admittedly, this is in the greater Puget Sound where construction is going bananas.
The point being that despite the glamor of the tech industry, there are ways to make a buck and have a future here in the trades.
In a broad sense yes.
Part of my service is to prevent erosion. Basically I help builders/developers in minimizing the total pollutants leaving job sites and muddy water is considered a pollutant.
QFT, everything here is based on when the homeowners want to move in with X-mas, July 4th and Turkeyday being the big 3. Snow removal is big business and if you have a contained spot to dump snow and a couple of trucks to haul and dump you can make good $$$.Quote:
That's when I learned that people are crazy. The homeowners couldn't wait a few months for things to get more reasonable.
Back in the day I bought a T-shirt at Likely paddlefest, my GF the teacher & spelling nazi pointed out that Likley was mis-spelled which I point out to the organizer, buddy said he got really busy so he let the guy in the tattoo shop take care of it
Your protestations notwithstanding, that’s still pretty anecdotal and you’re still grasping at outliers. Google says median electrician salary in that area is around $80k, which… sure. I’m not saying that the trades aren’t a valid career path, but to my point and to the thread, it isn’t looking good as a path to home ownership given current trends. How much does a 2000 square ft 3 bedroom home cost in puget sound?
From https://www.comparably.com/salaries/...-in-seattle-wa
Salary Ranges for Union Electricians in Seattle, WA
The salaries of Union Electricians in Seattle, WA range from $35,879 to $173,907 , with a median salary of $75,369 . The middle 57% of Union Electricians makes between $75,369 and $108,139, with the top 86% making $173,907.
https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...le_WA/overview
Median Seattle house price is $765k.
Assuming a $600k loan at 3%, monthlies are around $2800.
If a kid starts out as an electrician, ends up in their 30s making $8k/month as an employee, no where near the top end of the data, that's well into the ballpark for a loan. Plus, they're set up to start their own contracting company.
So, I still think there's an argument for it.
Then there's this ad:
Journeyman/Journeywoman Plumber
apex mechanical
Seattle, WA
$75 - $95 an hour
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Until tech learns to run on something other than electricity, there will be a need for electricians.
Glamour? Tech industry?
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I don’t know where you get electricians for $60k a year. Sometimes I think those stats are weighed down by people saying I’m an “x” who really aren’t. The average accountant salary is less than $60k according to Google but I pay fresh out of college accountants $50-60 and most people on staff make $100+.
Its Saturday children. Bong hits and bike rides
I'm buy 3/4 birch for less than a 100 a sheet. acx 5/8 whatevs
Lumber will drop like a rock once the lazy politicians get off there hands and start asking questions only to find out we are being gouged but that won't happen
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Electricians doing engineering and supervising high voltage installs and power grid shit are making 200k Jimmy half fried pulling wire w a journey mans lic is getting 45k dont kid yourself
Alot of the high wage paying companies are run by assholes and have huge turnovers there is a couple around me.
My best bud growing up is an electrician in the bay area he makes good money no college does hard core commercial work watched a co worker get fryed by endless amps couldn't touch the guy he got smoked to a crisp until they shut the power down they were working on a live disconnect in silicon valley so he quit on the spot wanted to be realtor realized that sucks and went back to being an electrician
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