I was just about to go into the whole how do you define aliens bullshit argument and the BCMtndog does it for me.
Most theists are quick to alter their definition of “god” when questions become difficult to answer.
God moves the goalposts for you if you have enough faith.
The bigger issue is how to get them out of politics and away from our laws. I don't have a problem with personal faith until it interferes in the public sphere. It's funny how many ignorant people get all riled up about the possibility of "Sharia Law" in this country and don't see how the outsized influence of Evangelical christians is leading us to a similar end result, if unchecked. Aka The christian Taliban. Billy Graham, mentioned earlier in this thread, was very much part of the problem in that regard. Churches that influence politics should lose tax exempt status and their clergy should have to register as lobbyists. It is more than fair given how the right has worked to bust up labor unions based partially on the premise of their political influence.
You got your chocolate in my peanut butter.
I have my doubts about the intelligence of anyone who takes a 2,000 year old book literally.
Maybe because a lot of those who get riled up about Sharia Law are Evangelical Christians?
I'm all about freedom of religion. I'm even more about freedom from religion.
https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/...re-inaccurate/
^ summarizes research about myths :fmicon: concerning agnostics & atheists, presented at Vatican.
Speaking of the Vatican—behind the scenes, off the record interviews indicate the priestly cognoscenti evolve toward a quasi-agnostic view as they get older. NTTAWWT.
I'm curious. How do athiests define the god that they don't believe in. I mean, some believers think that the clouds are literally between them and god while others believe in a universal "spirit" as the source of our chaotic order.
How the religious define and dismiss the gods that they don't believe in is probably a more useful question to ask.
Thought I already described the believers god spectrum. Use whatever comes to your mind. Just curious as I'm sure there are as many definitions of what god isn't.
I don't debate this stuff. People can't even define concentration camp and agree these days.
There's no need to define what god isn't, but I suppose if that needs explaining at this point, it's too late.
Brilliant. Thanks.
What is god?
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and I asked ... "Please elaborate."
It doesn't sound like you are saying "church and state". It sounds like you are saying "faith and state".
So that's why I ask. Because I don't know what you mean and I think a lot of believers, atheists, and agnostics would also want to know what you mean so they can apply that to their belief systems (or non-belief if you look at it that way).
It is one thing to want administrative and legal seperation. A whole 'nuther matter if you want peacnicks to shut up and go to war or endorse war bills.
Please clarify, if you don't mind.
I'm asking you to tell me what YOU think. Would my response have any weight on your answer? It might and I don't want to skew your thoughts. I'm not debating anything here as my core belief in a "god" is that it is MY core belief and what others believe is interesting and I'm interested in hearing thoughts. I love that line by the priest in Rudy! . "I really only know that there IS a god and that I'm not him".
You can just say “I don’t know”.
Enough of the rim jobbing.
I’m asking you a separate, independent question from the current shit show.
What is god?
Can’t a man of faith like yourself answer such a simple question.
I don’t have an answer and I don’t know, which is why I am asking.
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