Gotta say, the ATK R12 and Crest 10 look pretty dope. If you're down on the others, those gotta be tops.
How do they differ again? Besides DIN (10 vs 12)?
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Gotta say, the ATK R12 and Crest 10 look pretty dope. If you're down on the others, those gotta be tops.
How do they differ again? Besides DIN (10 vs 12)?
Crest has the elastic response system - 8mm spring loaded heel combined with 4mm gap.
I'm not sure about the R12/FR14.
[edit]The R12/FR14 also have the elastic response system (https://www.atkbindings.com/en/prodo.../r12-white-en/). They also have some sort of anti-icing configuration in the toe. It's unclear whether the toe is a monolink (like the Crest) or not.
... Thom
Looking at a good deal for ATK Crest but it’s got 75 mm brakes. My ski is 96mm, just wondering if anybody with ATk can give me an idea of actual vs stated brake width and how delicate they might be/ how much room I have to play. Normal alpine I would have little trouble bending the shit out of them but with lightweight touring stuff I thought I’d ask. 21mm is quite a bit of bending.
ETA: yay! 200 posts! What, another 1800 and I might lose a bit of my JONGness?
Unlike the others, ATK brakes sizes are pretty spot on. BUT, ATK brakes are also thin, so I guess you can bend them easily. I've successfully bent G3 Ion 85mm brakes for 115mm ski and they worked ok. Anyway, due to how thin ATK brakes are, they won't stop your ski on a slope.
Toe is not monolink. No springs in toe, it works very similarly to the Revolution race binding. I have seen those race bindings in use for 4 years or so, work great. https://www.atkbindings.com/wp-conte...ght-blue-3.png
You can replace those brakes with a different size: https://www.atkbindings.com/en/prodo...ear-ski-brake/
This is why I'm perplexed by the dynafit... That big freaking gap
I have 1 day on the backland/mtn I've been impressed by the binding for a while, it's so light and simple and basically all metal leading to great durability. My number 1 favorite thing about it though is the way the brakes lock out. The fiddling with brakes on dynafit/G3 etc is just silly. I've had problems getting them back into ski mode after a long tour as well. With the sollys no twisting the tower, no nothing, just flip a lever and you are good to go.
FINALLY got my ATK Crests from Snowinn, ordered as a backup from a Sportsprofi order that got lost in the mail. They look fantastic, but the brakes leave something to be desired. I thought Dynafit brakes were worthless, but these are like trying to stop your ski with short toothpicks.
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One thing I've wondered about both the Crests and the R12s/ FR14s is whether you can remove the brakes and ski without them - without compromising the design in any way. Can you determine this with your Crests?
... Thom
Anyone ever used an ATK "freeride spacer" on non-ATK bindings?
https://www.haganskimountaineering.c...r-core-binding
Considering tossing em on with Alpinists ... for increased freeride spacing.
For the sake of clarity, those are the old style freeride spacer. The new one is more U shaped overall and wider, but must be mounted underneath the binding on the ski.
link here:https://www.telemark-pyrenees.com/at...pacer-r12-fr14
That being said, the old one is probably more likely to be compatible with other bindings, which is definitely an interesting idea. I'm not sure on the height of the old style spacer, but if it fits with other non-atk bindings I imagine the support it provides in conjunction with its sliding AFD would be a big improvement.
EDIT:
looked into this to find specs.
ATK's website says it will work with any binding provided the gap between boot sole and topsheet is between 14.5mm and 20mm.
source: https://www.atkbindings.com/en/prodo...sories/al05-2/
seems like a pretty great mod for all tech heels it'll work with
Anyone know if atk, particularity r12 or fr14 can take dynafit crampons?