I’d kill myself…or all of them, like riserx said.
Yeah, but half the population is dumber than average.
Or is that dumber than the median? Anyway, tyranny of the majority is an ongoing issue. Don’t get me started.
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I'd argue that is just as much or more the result of more people carrying guns more places. Folks are way more likely to lose their manners and escalate arguments and road rage rather than turning the other cheek when they're armed. The myth that "an armed society is a polite society" is TOTALLY busted!
Round 2 for me. Triple vaxed had it in Jan. Been flying a lot, still masking up. Flu like symptoms for a few days then hacking cough at night.
Might have gotten from an HoA meeting. Presidents husband died of pneumonia a few days ago, idiot would not go to a doctor. Probably not in the stats.
Urgent care seeing alot of it.
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What if it mutated to a variant where it could spread between farm animals and people? I get that most animals stay put, but new ones and the dogs and cats might be mingling with other critters off your property and coming back. Would you mask yourself, the animals, or both?
It can be both if folks wear masks.. Folks afraid of getting sick or high risk and everyone else can live a reasonably social life instead of having to isolate at home with more mask usage. Is it worth it to don the face diaper inorder to increase eye to eye contact and real life conversations and workplace interactions? Or is the mask just too much to deal with and not worth it to avoid getting and spreading COVID??
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Actually... I do mask when I'm working in the barn because of the dust from hay and bedding and when I groom the horses. I wear N95s in the barn. I wear KN95s in public.
There are some equine diseases that are highly transmittable between equine that require all vehicles entering and leaving an infected farm to drive through a tire wash. They also require boot washes for workers and clothes must be sanitized after being worn around the barn. So we already have protocols for stuff like that.
Bold part is the really big problem.. especially in a nation where 80% of the face to face service workers don't get sick pay. And people most of the time don't know they're sick. So if you really don't want to get sick every other month you got to wear a mask when close up with others in public venues... and probably work too..
Yeah. Kinda funny, my job just ended the "emergency" and all the stuff that helped people not work when sick and we have more people than ever out with it.
I stopped going to the pool because after my bout of not covid I do not have enough sick leave left to get covid. Lots of people are super low on sick leave because they were making anyone with "covid symptoms" stay out until for like 2 weeks and everything is a covid symptom.
Now no more.
Fwiw, my SIL, who was symptomatic, was not yet testing positive at the time that joetron tested. She tested positive on pcr at day 4 of symptoms, likely 6 days after exposure and tested pos on RAT at day 5 of symptoms. She’s also had a pcr on day 2 of symptoms and RATs every day from symptom onset.
This inflation mess is going to get every elected official voted out of office, and is a direct effect of the lockdowns.
The next pandemic could be The Walking Dead Virus and i guarantee we aren't locking down again in the USA.
Side note: All the addiction deaths and suicides in the next 5+ years. Are they considered COVID deaths too? These shitty circumstances are a direct result of COVID and our bungled response to it.
[Monster thread drift warning] The first step is admitting we have a problem, right? I see the absurdity of getting emotional about irrationality, but we're humans, so we can't rationally expect not to be emotional. At least that's how I rationalize it.
Now that you mention it I'm sure someone has worked on codifying techniques. Probably worth a search. I'm not an authority at all, but I'm happy to offer some rights for discussion.
What has worked for me so far is similar to avoiding any inappropriate topic with people who really want to go there: personally, I set firm expectations with terse, factual comments that don't leave room for argument--truisms that we all know and accept (like project goals). Stated as professionally as possible to focus the conversation and set a factual tone. Stay rigidly on topic and be prepared to repeat the basic facts many times, since the emotional thinker is constantly working on ways to justify his or her desired conclusion. And who knows, maybe it is the right conclusion--if so, it will match the objective criteria.
All of that usually sacrifices open conversation and even creativity to a degree, but with some people that is a price worth paying. I've worked in a couple places with "borderline" sexual harassers and drama queens who liked to yell a lot and this worked well there (obviously I never called them that to their faces, I just left no room in our conversation for nonsense, never reacted to provocative statements etc. and I came away with much less colorful stories than did my co-workers.)
Sometimes having a written list of the reasons or concerns can help when someone starts going "firehose" or trying to just blitz the conversation with half-relevant issues. Slow down and go to the notes.
And, obviously, know and address your own biases and have low expectations, because nothing works all the time. At least, nothing I know of.
On the off chance the emo happens to be an engineer there's a great speech that Hoover gave to an engineering class graduation whose centerpiece was "if an engineer's works do not work, he is damned." Sometimes the guy who's in love with his own idea/solution can be brought back from the brink with that. There's no advantage to winning an argument by convincing the team to make a mistake (when we find out it didn't work we'll all remember who championed it).
Asspen doesn’t like facts. Dramatic stories are always better.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/11/healt...021/index.html
"Overdose deaths have been on the rise for years in the US, but surged amid the Covid-19 pandemic: Annual deaths were nearly 50% higher in 2021 than in 2019, CDC data shows.
The spike in overdose deaths in the second year of the pandemic wasn't as quite as dramatic as in the first year: Overdose deaths were up about 15% between 2020 and 2021, compared with a 30% jump between 2019 and 2020.
But the change is still stark. In 2021, about 14,000 more people died of overdose deaths in than in 2020, the CDC data shows."
It's like we live in different worlds.
I even used your favorite source, CNN.
Naw everyone just killed other people with all those guns that were sold..
U.S. Murder Rate Up 30% During Pandemic, Highest One-Year Rise Ever
While I'm in here, did you see the FOIA released internal emails released from the CDC as they admitted their "vaccine" wasn't actually a vaccine by THEIR OWN DEFINITION? Instead of formulating a better product, they just changed the definitions of "vaccine" and "vaccinated" on their website. You cant make this shit up!
People have been asking us if COVID-19 vaccines are not technically vaccines. They often cite that page 25 CDC’ definition for what counts as a vaccine. Here are a few examples (more in the attached spreadsheets): « Isittrue that this shot for Covid is not actuallya vaccine per your definition? Does this shot make you immune to the Covid virus? If not, why should | get the shot? « Reading the CC's definition of vaccine i says ..10 produce immunity to. specific disease." Everything you read today says this shot doesn't give you immunity but helps a person fight off the infection. Our question is how is the CDC and the rest of the world allowed to call the shota vaccination when it doesn't even meet your own definition hitps://www cde gov/vaceines/vac-gen/imz-basics him The definition of the word vaccine used on this page states thatavaccine produces immunity. Further, immunity is defined as being. exposed tot the pathogen) without becoming infected. There are several vaccines, including the new COVID vaccines that do not produce immunity as defined. Would t be possible for you to update the page to be more clear on the definition ofa vaccine? | was directed to this page by someone attemptingto use it asproof that the EUA COVID vaccines are not really vaccines since they do not provide immunity as defined on the linked page. Hopefully this can help clear up some disinformation that has been spread during the pandemic. « Please update the definition of vaccine on your website found at hitps://www.cde gov/vacines/vacgen/imz-basics htm People are citing this as proof that the. mRNA vaccines are not really vaccines. The definition needs to include new technological advances (miriam webster has done this). Thanks Right-wing covid-19 pandemic deniers are using your "vaccine" definition to argue that mRNA vaccines are not vaccines: Here is the definition from the CDC website: Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person's immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose. The phrase "to produce immunity” was interpreted to mean “complete” or “perfect” immunity. This was twisted to claimthat the existing covid-19 vaccines were not vaccines because they only prevented severe fines. | think it would be more accurate to say thata vaccine function is "to stimulate an immune response" 10beclear that perfect immunity isnot what definesa vaccine. Best,Andrew
Edit: sorry that came out like a Ski J post, this is me copying and pasting the emails from the CDC FOIA request.
Every vaccine has breakthroughs, so technically their old definition was incorrect and that's why they changed it.
Can’t ignore the fact that there is also a raging opioid epidemic at the same time as the Covid pandemic. So who knows the correlation, overdose deaths would of still increased without Covid, just hard to know how many extra people Overdosed because of Covid related issues.
Impossible to know.
Those kind of “studies” are stupid.
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