California Experiencing Driest Year Since at Least 1580

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Originally Posted by BCMountainHound

Actually, we have very good daily weather data records starting in around the 1660's in England, and since around 1710's in York Factory and Churchill (Hudsons Bay Company). The HBC data from the trading forts have been especially valuable as global climate changes are exacerbated in the arctic and sub-arctic regions.

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A little Anglo centric there, aren't we? The world was a little bigger than those few places, although the sun rarely set on the Empire for a time.

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Originally Posted by Benny Profane

Well, first of all, you don't have data from the "past century or two". Our national weather agency was established in 1869. Hey, I'm no statistician, but, c'mon.

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Let me help you out with the math, man, because you're not a statistician. 1869 is almost certainly the definition of "a century or two" ago. And I'm sure there are data sources going back substantially further than that. As far as I know, people in that business publish stuff using ice core data that go back many thousands of years almost all the time. I work with shittier data every single fucking day of my life.

Aside from penis size, I can not think of something that mankind has been measuring more frequently and more obsessively than the weather.

Arguing that the statistical power of these forecasts is insufficient is a technical claim. You can't just pull stuff out of your ass, shrug your shoulders and say "I'm not a statistician," and pretend that your opinion is valid.

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Originally Posted by Benny Profane

A little Anglo centric there, aren't we? The world was a little bigger than those few places, although the sun rarely set on the Empire for a time.

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You were discussing modern, reliable & longterm surface weather conditions records. And stated that records of polar ice extent was only a few decade old. You do know that data can be corroberated and then extrapolated to apply to a greater spatial extent over a much greater timeframe, right? But hey, keep on trollin'

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Originally Posted by JoeStrummer

Why do you guys read shit like Collapse? So bleak. I would rather watch my son get lured into a creepy ice cream truck than read bloated treatises about how we are suiciding ourselves.

Maybe I listened to too much David Lee Roth as a youth but I am fine with just enjoying myself and admiring beautiful women and running out my own personal clock. I dont want to hear about how I am nominated for Best Supporting Actor in an extinction event.

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Originally Posted by skiballs

^ Let's throw a few #'s out just for fun.
The time since the first homosapien appeared 4 million year+-.
Number of thousand year flood, droughts, hurricanes, etc, during this time frame.

4,000,000/1000=4000

So the 100yr floods and storms and and the like, have happened 40,000 times since homosapiens have been around.

If you follow all the doomsday logic mankind should never have been able to exist.

Given enough time chicken little will always be right ( see meteorites and asteroids ).

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If strummer is one in a million, there are 7000 strummers out there.

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Originally Posted by Sirshredalot

Let me help you out with the math, man, because you're not a statistician. 1869 is almost certainly the definition of "a century or two" ago. And I'm sure there are data sources going back substantially further than that. As far as I know, people in that business publish stuff using ice core data that go back many thousands of years almost all the time. I work with shittier data every single fucking day of my life.

Aside from penis size, I can not think of something that mankind has been measuring more frequently and more obsessively than the weather.

Arguing that the statistical power of these forecasts is insufficient is a technical claim. You can't just pull stuff out of your ass, shrug your shoulders and say "I'm not a statistician," and pretend that your opinion is valid.

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There are data sources going back substantially after that? Now,who's pulling stuff out of their ass? Please elaborate. Name me these sources. Hell, just a hundred years before that, Captain Cook was sailing off from Britain to discover far off lands that most of civilized humanity didn't even know existed. It was like travelling to space, although we had a much better idea what our astronauts were travelling to than the merchants of England did trying to find trade routes.

Read my post. Meterological data is very incomplete until the mid 20th century. Sorry. Penis size has a much longer and wider data base. Heh. Longer and wider.

did you gift your account to some troll like mrw? seriously, what's wrong with you benny?

Shut up Hugh. I'm riffing here. On a roll.

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Originally Posted by ms ann thrope

Because, after all, if a white man wasn't there and wrote it down, there's pretty much no way to know anything at all.

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Pretty much. Can't get data from petroglyphs.

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Originally Posted by Benny Profane

Well, I guess Spook hasn't read that stuff either.

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i've read so much of that shit and other shit like it that i honestly don't give a shit anymore. humans aren't the best thing that ever ended up on planet earth and when they're gone nobody will care.

You are a bright, beaming light of hope and grace for all the rest of us here, Spook. Please never stop posting such witty bon mots.

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Originally Posted by Benny Profane

You are a bright, beaming light of hope and grace for all the rest of us here, Spook. Please never stop posting such witty bon mots.

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i just answered your bullshit honestly. i didn't say you had to stop jacking yourself off with what you think you know.

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Originally Posted by spook

i just answered your bullshit honestly. i didn't say you had to stop jacking yourself off with what you think you know.

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But, but, Spook, you never attempted to explain the facts you are so well read on to poor Benny. Please try. I'm so lost in the desert of denial.

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Originally Posted by Benny Profane

But, but, Spook, you never attempted to explain the facts you are so well read on to poor Benny. Please try. I'm so lost in the desert of denial.

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but i don't care. the biggest part of not giving a shit is not giving a shit.

Then why are you bothering?

i'm not. you are.

Ha. I saw Ted Cruz do that on TV the other day. Talk about denial.

show me what facts i have alleged in this thread that you don't understand, benny.

Spook, c'mon. This is absurd. You never went beyond you short little two line, what you think is witty, insults. Try harder.

right, so what the fuck are you talking about?

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Originally Posted by JoeStrummer

Why do you guys read shit like Collapse? So bleak.

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Bullshit. You think so because of the book's name? It's anything but.

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Originally Posted by bl2000

Bullshit. You think so because of the book's name? It's anything but.

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Truth, Diamond expresses hope. I don't see it but he does.

armageddon only sells well among godnuts

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Originally Posted by spook

but i don't care. the biggest part of not giving a shit is not giving a shit.

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leave the shit.
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i guess it is selfish of me to horde all the shit