Truck snow tires

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Originally Posted by SuperChief

It’s not a truck. If it’s 4wd it doesn’t need snow tires…maybe get a forester.

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I would agree in many places in the US that good AT tires with good tread can work just fine for 90% of snow situations. I never ran true snow tires for hundreds of storms in CO driving around the state.

Up here in Hoth when the canyon is -30*F and the huge blades of big plow trucks are just skipping off the top of diamond hard white packed ice??? Yeah.....I am glad I run studded Hakkas. It makes a MASSIVE difference when the conditions are like that. And they just make normal snow a lot more comfortable to drive too.

I think a ton of people don't understand it until they drive a vehicle with Blizzaks or Hakkas and see how massively different it is than even good AT tires.

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Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian

I think a ton of people don't understand it until they drive a vehicle with Blizzaks or Hakkas and see how massively different it is than even good AT tires.

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So true

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Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian

I would agree in many places in the US that good AT tires with good tread can work just fine for 90% of snow situations. I never ran true snow tires for hundreds of storms in CO driving around the state.

Up here in Hoth when the canyon is -30*F and the huge blades of big plow trucks are just skipping off the top of diamond hard white packed ice??? Yeah.....I am glad I run studded Hakkas. It makes a MASSIVE difference when the conditions are like that. And they just make normal snow a lot more comfortable to drive too.

I think a ton of people don't understand it until they drive a vehicle with Blizzaks or Hakkas and see how massively different it is than even good AT tires.

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I’ve only been up there once. And I was on brand new Falken Wilpeaks. They did ok but yeah, planet Hoth with -20F and pure ice roads, I drove like grandpa. Studded snows would be my only choice.

That was a hell of an experience in February.

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Originally Posted by Sylvan

DMV2s on 2nd gen Tundra. Use case is snowy coastal BC mountain roads 4 months/year, not cool enough to turn to ice all season, plus reasonably maintained FSRs, no towing or serious hauling.
I personally wouldn’t run em again. Load rating is plenty high for GVWR (*1.2), truck is normally at 6k#, but they drive like an SUV tire on a truck despite the marketing/load index. Great when roads are bad enough that driving the posted limit isn’t possible, but what makes em great in these conditions (soft sidewalls and tread optimized for SUVs), means at posted highway speeds, combined with the stock SR5 suspension, the induced body roll is unpredictable which makes me fearful of required evasive maneuvers…and waiting to puncture a sidewall on an FSR. Shouldn’t a cheaped out. LTs or Hakka LT3s will likely replace em for my use case. Been running WS Blizzaks on our cars for a decade and love em. YMMV.

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I used to practise a revolutionary driving technique called

slowing down

10 kph above the limit in summer 10 kph below the limit in winter no cruise controland studded Haks always worked 99% of the time

I'm spending big time on haks this afternoon

I have been running 285/65/20 K02 on my truck. No one can seem to find either a snow tire or rim to accommodate my wheels. The main problem is the size of my front brakes. I am running Brembo 6 piston calipers 380X34 (15") 2 piece discs. I can'Without replacing the brakes, I can't run on smaller wheels.Attachment 503820
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I have been told that the discs are too large for snow tires. Having said that newish K02s seem to work fine.

" Cost of LT Blizzaks is too close to the Haks "

back in the day GF wanted snow tires for her very cheap 88 corrola, I said well for a cheap car just get these cheaper tires (forget the brand ) she said well what do you run I want the best too ? So we put Haks/ rims on the car that were worth > the car and I could see she was right

Haks/ steel rims/ lug nuts will be just narth of 2700 $ this afternoon so pay the man, cha-ching !

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Originally Posted by schindlerpiste

I have been running 285/65/20 K02 on my truck. No one can seem to find either a snow tire or rim to accommodate my wheels. The main problem is the size of my front brakes. I am running Brembo 6 piston calipers 380X34 (15") 2 piece discs. I can'Without replacing the brakes, I can't run on smaller wheels.


I have been told that the discs are too large for snow tires. Having said that newish K02s seem to work fine.

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Hakka LT3s come in 275/65-20

https://na.nokiantyres.com/snow-wint...apeliitta-lt3/

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Originally Posted by XXX-er

" Cost of LT Blizzaks is too close to the Haks "

back in the day GF wanted snow tires for her very cheap 88 corrola, I said well for a cheap car just get these cheaper tires (forget the brand ) she said well what do you run I want the best too ? So we put Haks/ rims on the car that were worth > the car and I could see she was right

Haks/ steel rims/ lug nuts will be just narth of 2700 $ this afternoon so pay the man, cha-ching !

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I feel like you've told this same anecdote in every winter tire thread, multiple times in each thread.

and thats just on this blog, but not the price of tires for a Tundra cuz its new,

is it wrong or you don't like it ?

if even one person decides buying real snow tires and not killing themselves its worth the pedantic snow tire posts

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Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong

Hakka LT3s come in 275/65-20

https://na.nokiantyres.com/snow-wint...apeliitta-lt3/

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So, I guess that I should determine the wheel width, but I think the guy at Burt Bros told me that they would not fit

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Originally Posted by schindlerpiste

So, I guess that I should determine the wheel width, but I think the guy at Burt Bros told me that they would not fit

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You know, you can get those blockier treads siped at better tire places.

Big mud and snow lugs that aren't all that on smoother slippery surfaces can be brought to a better grip level by having them siped at Les schwab or such.

It's not as ideal as a factory sipe but can make yours better lacking options...

I was gona try hak SUV's but they don't come in my size and i wouldn't save that much $$$

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Originally Posted by schindlerpiste

So, I guess that I should determine the wheel width, but I think the guy at Burt Bros told me that they would not fit

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The first number in the tire size, "275", is the width of the tire across the tread in millimeters. So 275 vs 285 is 10mm narrower. 275/65R20 will fit all day long.

The two rear K02s are brand new and the front treads are at ~12mm. Siping seems to be an option for older worn tires. I always thought that the softer rubber compound is what makes snow tires special. Siping is interesting. While the K02s have never given me a problem in snow, the consensus is that snows are much better than winter rated all terrain, which the K02s are.

Travis, I think that we are talking rim size, not tire size. I think that a 275 can fit on a rim that is 7.5-9.5", while a 285 will fit on a rim that is 8-10". I believe that my rims are 10"

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Originally Posted by schindlerpiste

So, I guess that I should determine the wheel width, but I think the guy at Burt Bros told me that they would not fit

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Need a 7.5”-9.5” wide rim for the 275.


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https://tiresize.com/tiresizes/285-65R20.htm

I see what you are saying about rim size, but I still think those tires would not be problem on a 10" rim. If you really want winter tires the 275/65R20 is your option. But honestly the KO2 is a pretty good tire on the snow.

You are correct about winter tires being built with rubber compounds that remain soft in temperatures below 45F. And siping in their tread design. Having a tire siped is an option, but I would guess the tire companies won't do that to a used tire. Small rock in the tread would mess up the knife. My concern would be having a tire siped that wasn't designed to be siped. Most tire companies design tire sipes in winter tires with "3D" sipes help with tread squirm and dissipate heat and keep a soft tire safe. Siping any old tire might have unintended consequences.

It’s not just about being softer, the chemical composition changes as well. Chemical components that typically improve wet grip actually decrease ice grip, and vice versa. More advanced tire compounds balance those trade-offs better, which is one of the benefits of a premium winter tire vs. a budget one.

A buddy of mine siped some KOs one time (first gen, long time ago). They were super grippy, but iirc started chunking off pretty badly at low mileage. He also had a giant camper on the truck which was a nizzan frontier. It was pretty funny, but he made it work pretty well for years.

Hakka LT3 275-65-28, non studded, Load Range E. US$409 list each, although there is a $20/tire rebate through Nov.

My studded haks are 60%f/40%r. By the numbers 40 is replacing zone, but driving the 60's felt...fine? Debating doing all 4 this year or trying to eek out a season.

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I drove my Hakka lt3 studless down to 50% last year and that was as far as I wanted to go. Up until then they were excellent.

If 285 is the minimum width to fit to the wheel, look at 285/45r20. They’re gonna be low profile. Or maybe a narrower 20” wheel, ie two sets of wheels.

Fucking Fuck.


I have newer studded snows with about 4k on them, 2 easy winters driving locally.

After paying $32 last week for a fucking valve stem core, I get a pinsize hole right where the tread meets the sidewall. Not really repairable.
Need a new tire. Originally got 4 on closeout for $275. A new single now starts at $175.

That’s repairable. Just do an inside patch.



fact.

Hakka LT3 - One shop quoted $342/tire, but mentioned it's buy 3, get 1 free btwn 11/26 and 12/2.