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Originally Posted by Supermoon
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Originally Posted by Supermoon
And thus the reason English drink warm beer...Quote:
Originally Posted by riser4
If the existence of the system was a secret, admiring it exists sort of blows that part of it upQuote:
Originally Posted by Mustonen
If true then I’m really annoyed that we spent tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars of public funds mobilizing half the eastern seaboard coast guard to look for these reckless idiots who were already dead…Quote:
Originally Posted by stalefish3169
Presumably, the system itself and how it functions and what it’s called is top secret, but the fact that top secret systems exist is not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supermoon
Hardly a surprise.
Or you’re just smarter than everybody else.
Sure. Maybe. Just seems weird to admit they have and were using it when they’d already confirmed it went down another way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustonen
What’s the point?
People would still demand proof. People would cry cover up / distraction.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcpnz
Just call it training experience to put a positive spin on it?
Intimidation/discouragement. The message is “we have secret shit of unknown capabilities so plz fck off ty.” Same reason I let my kids know that I have ways of knowing what they’re up to without letting them know that I have a good friend who’s good friends with a couple of their friends’ moms.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supermoon
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Originally Posted by Mustonen
It's well known that we have microphones listening to the ocean looking for subs. Hell, the last time I was out on a boat tour in Kauai, the tour guide pointed out the listening base and spouted on about it for five minutes. What we just did was spend millions of dollars doing some real world quality control testing on the accuracy of the system and called it search and rescue. Given that they found the debris within 48 hours, I'd call it a pretty damn big success. Send the bill to the Navy and call it a day.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcpnz
Ballard and Cameron's interviews on ABC are worth watching.
"“People in the community were very concerned about this sub,” Cameron said. “A number of the top players in the deep submergence engineering community even wrote letters to the company, saying that what they were doing was too experimental to carry passengers and that it needed to be certified. I’m struck by the similarity of the Titanic disaster itself, where the captain was repeatedly warned about ice ahead of his ship, and yet he steamed at full speed into an ice field on a moonless night and many people died as a result. For us, it’s a very similar tragedy where warnings went unheeded.” -Cameron
Both hammered home that this is really the first time this has happened in deep diving. Cameron seems to imply he has inside knowledge that they were attempting an ascent after running into hull integrity issues.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rThZLhNF_xg
[Teen Passenger’s Aunt Says He Was ‘Terrified’ To Go On VoyageQuote:
Originally Posted by Diamond Joe
Suleman Dawood, the 19-year-old passenger aboard Titan with his father, told a relative before embarking on the submersible voyage that he “wasn’t very up for it” and felt “terrified” about the journey, his aunt told NBC News.
Azmeh Dawood – the sister of passenger Shahzada Dawood – told the network through tears: “I feel disbelief. It’s an unreal situation.”
Her nephew ultimately decided to go on the trip with his dad because it fell over Father’s Day weekend.
“I feel like I’ve been caught in a really bad film with a countdown, but you didn’t know what you’re counting down to,” she continued. “I personally have found it kind of difficult to breathe thinking of them.”]
Jesus, that’s fucking awful
Ugh that’s terrible.
Your friend collects intel for you while banging the local moms?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustonen
How the information is recovered is their business and best not talked about. Espionage is a dirty business.Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong
I remember reading about it in a Tom Clancy novel a long time agoQuote:
Originally Posted by Not DJSapp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOSUS
Yeah, they had one in Big Sur, too. Used it to find that sunken soviet sub that the Glomar Explorer tried to recover.Quote:
Originally Posted by Not DJSapp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Facility_Point_Sur
Guy I work with was a nuclear sub engineer/sailor When this went down I asked him why can't a sub go find them? He said, "Find them? They're dead. They're not looking because they already know they're dead."
Yeah the whole thing has Hunt for Red October vibes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brownski
Carbon fiber hull, crazy
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A song for every occasion
One of our submarines
One of our submarines is missing tonight
Seems she ran aground on manoeuvres
One of our submarines
A hungry heart
To regulate their breathing
One more night
The Winter Boys are freezing in their spam tin
They probably died at the same time they lost commo.
Ocean has been miked since the 60s
Its how they found other subs.
Best timeline I’ve seen proposed to date, not at the same time, but “shortly after”:Quote:
Originally Posted by SB
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-nav...s-ago-6844cb12
And Tom Clancy novels read as a teen is part of what has me tuned in to this part of the story.
Well, one thing for sure, the owners/CEO etc of Oceangate will probably never put another vessel to sea again after the billionaire’s lawyers are through with them. And the lawyers of the other passengers.
I’ll be curious to see how iron-clad whatever waiver they had to sign will actually be.
How good of friends? Milkman good?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustonen