They lost 40sec and 1:27 to Froome today. Doesn't look to me like they are getting ready to attack...

Just because some land is clear cut doesnt mean other land shouldn't be protected. There are so many variables... It should be totally ok to...

The trails on galby that are bike only would be pretty shitty to hike and nearly impassable to a horse... The walkers and trail runners still...

Agreed, great racing today Disappointed with Quintana and Landa however

Pickup trucks drive on roads, not trails. Around here there use to be lots of "anything goes" land. It was destroyed. Litter, target practice,...

Well then the moto people must be lying when then say they have no legal places to ride in Whatcom county?

No legal moto trails in Whatcom county and with the big new trail expansion/recreation plan they are likely to be pushed out of some longtime...

Sounds like a different trail system with different conditions and needs?

I don't understand how the "rich people" close the trails to everyone except them when you are arguing for considering a motorized vehicle that costs...

Question is Which team - Sky or Movistar - starts the pain train tomorrow. I’m thinking Movistar...

^^^ this. Pedal them if you don’t want to shuttle. Just be careful about taking ownership of them I didn't say I didn't ride them I said I don't...

Everyone rides mountain bikes here. Regular people. Often the bike on the roof is worth more than the car. This in the PNW. Our trails are...

Including his mom would reduce the cash payment

I don't really care about shuttle trails. They are already shuttle trails. I don't want pedal trails to become shuttle trails. I want those that...

In the time I have been riding mountain bikes I have been shuttled three times for a total of 4 laps.

Protest what? There are hardly any legal moto trails around here. I might even support opening up more for them, but the reality is that motos have...

Me, specifically?

Around here, Motos destroy the land. They don't stay on trails, their idea of building trails is just rude straight up the hillside until it's too...

Most trails are closed to bikes. Human and battery powered.

Maybe you could go for a drive instead. I'd like to go to the top of Mt Rainier. I'm not In good enough shape.

Anybody notice all the "Fck Sky" writings on the road up the Col de Romme?

Yes they are. Like oftpiste I grew up eating po-peoples-cuts of meat. We also hunted, fished and gathered wild nuts, berries and roots. So it’s...

A lot of this is about population. 20 local guys riding dirtbikes all over isn't a big deal. 1000 is different. Dirtbikes, ATVs, 4wheeling are...

However fast/far they can go without a motor assisting them. My point is that this is why electric mountain bikes are different than human powered...

Ok but we all get you disagree, too? It's always like this. Shut up if you are in opposition to the majority...?

human power has human limits. Speed always increases danger. Who will monitor this? Home mods or just a different sticker makes it...

Speed and distance increase impact. On trails, on humans, on wildlife. Human powered and battery power is not the same.

1. They can be modified to go faster. 2. Lots of multi use trails allow bikes to go up climbing trails but not down for safety reasons......