View Full Version : Campy sucks the salami
Plakespear
04-27-2004, 09:38 PM
I spent four hours today working on my bike. If you ever have to completely overhaul a Campagnolo freehub, I'm sorry. Wouldn't have been so bad if I had this one little tool I needed, but since some Campyphile stole all the Campy tools and service manuals from the shop I work at, I had to spend 2 hours trying to figure out how to reassemble the damn thing.
Anyway, the Veloce drivetrain still doesn't shift right- it NEVER DID. Hopefully next year I can afford a new Trek 5200- full Ultegra (and maybe it'll be a 10 speed drivetrain next year. If not, maybe I'll get Drua-Ace STI levers and R. derailleur)
Bottom line- Campy sucks. Anyone who disagrees with me- NEWSFLASH- it's not 1987 anymore.
ak_powder_monkey
04-27-2004, 11:27 PM
Wow i'm a JONG that means nothing to me, except I know you are doing something with a road bike and I was born in 1987
Originally posted by Tap
I'sa gotsa Veloce on'a my Ibis
Spanky? How appropriate!
I agree that Campy shifts nicely. Plake, what year gruppo have you? Veloce was forth or fifth from the top back when I last cycled seriously (98). So, it's not like you started out with the creme de la creme there.
Plakespear
04-28-2004, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by Viva
So, it's not like you started out with the creme de la creme there.
It was a $1200 bike. I expect it to at least WORK LIKE IT SHOULD. It's not a fucking Pacific.
Big E
04-28-2004, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by Plakespear
It's not a fucking Pacific.
You mean the ocean?
CantDog
04-28-2004, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by Plakespear
It was a $1200 bike. I expect it to at least WORK LIKE IT SHOULD. It's not a fucking Pacific.
Hey asswipe, whats wrong with pacific? This is my steed: http://www.pacific-cycle.com/brands/pacificproducts/bikes/bike_photos/26_arrow/26_arrow.gif
From their website: Pacific Bikes are positioned for fitness, fun and family enjoyment and have a reputation for high quality and value .
High quality, you hear that? I thought so.
Innominatus
04-28-2004, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by Plakespear
Bottom line- Campy sucks. Anyone who disagrees with me- NEWSFLASH- it's not 1987 anymore.
Brand devotion in bicycle gruppos probably approaches that of fervor in religion, only with more polarity!
I'm a huge (but selective) Campy-ophile, but I'll agree completely that their lower end stuff can be incredibly hit-or-miss. Veloce was a bitch to set up right.
One thing that's always impressed me about Shimano is that their midrange gruppos are bulletproof and are engineered at least as thoroughly as Dura-Ace (they spent more engineering Tiagra than Ultegra), whereas I've always felt that Campagnolo just threw all their lira and r & d at Record and Chorus, all the while smelting down old Fiat Topolinos and chianti jugs to make up the filler gruppos.
Anyway, yeah, lose the Veloce fer sure, as it's trash, but to diss all of Campagnolo (heathen!) based on a single instance is, I'd contend, a synecdochical fallacy.
Originally posted by Tap
i'sa gots me a couple'a thousand miles onna my Veloce, not'a one prob'a'lem
Va Fanculo, Doo-rah-chi!
Ahhhh...shudupya ya face!:D
Regarding Veloce - it's the same basic design as Record - in fact, the shifters are an improvement over the Record shifters of 3-4 years ago (as Campy upgrades Record, many previous components work their way down to become next year's Chorus, etc etc). The cassette, brakes, etc are all better than 3-4 year old record. The only things that aren't similar are the bearing surfaces (particularly hubs and bottom bracket). Back when I owned the bike shop, I put a Veloce group on my bike just to evaluate it - and liked it so much that I kept it on my bike all year (and raced on it that year as well) - so I am highly confident the guy bitching and talking smack just doesn't know how to set it up correctly. Typical.
Mike
>From: "!VIVA!"
>To:
>Subject: stuff
>Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 09:38:09 -0700
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>Hey Mike,
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>One last thing. Someone I know isn't happy with the Veloce components on his rig- I don't know which year. He
>got a $1200 bike, so I assume it was purchased new. He says that it never
>shifted right. I know that Veloce was, like, forth down on the Campy
>component list, but it couldn't have been that bad, could it? Any
>experience?
See ya at Western!
Plakespear
04-29-2004, 09:34 AM
Viva- bike was a 1998 Specialized Allez. I guess I shouldn't say that it never worked right. After I spend a half hour with the bike in the stand playing with the limit screws and barrel adjusters, it works. Until I actually ride it a few miles, and it starts getting wacky again.
The service manager at the shop I work at says "yeah, that's Campy for you. With Shimano it's set it and forget it."
Also, it might not have been as difficult to fix the hub if some Campyphile former mechanic hadnt WALKED OFF WITH ALL THE SERVICE MANUALS :mad:
Plakespear
04-29-2004, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by Innominatus
I've always felt that Campagnolo just threw all their lira and r & d at Record and Chorus, all the while smelting down old Fiat Topolinos and chianti jugs to make up the filler gruppos.
Yeah, kind of like Marker bindings- (only they use old VW Rabbits and Beck's bottles.) The high-end race room stuff is OK, but the rest of their stuff bites.
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