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Old 11-01-2009, 09:01 PM
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ON3P received demand to change name of “Great Scott”

This post is meant to inform anyone who has to date purchased a “Great Scott” ski from ON3P, or those who are considering a future purchase. In late October, ON3P received a cease and desist order from SCOTT USA Ltd., and its affiliates SCOTT Sports SA and SCOTT USA Inc., demanding ON3P immediately cease commercialization and sales of all “Great Scott” branded skis for reasons of trademark infringement.

We are current exploring the legality of the use of “Scott” in the name of our ski “Great Scott” and should reach a decision in the near future.

Once we have reached a decision, I will post an update on the matter.

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Old 11-01-2009, 09:03 PM
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All rise for a boycott of gayass corporate Scott shitty skis say aye!!
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:04 PM
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Really? That doesn't sound like trademark infringement. If I name my kid or dog, "Scott" is that trademark infringement? I don't know, sounds like BS to me, although I'm not a lawyer.
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:05 PM
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BOYCOTT THE HANSEN BEVERAGE COMPANY!

That's annoying, but not surprising.
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:06 PM
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This is like the vermonster vs monster energy thing

I can't see how that would be trademark infringement considering your name is scott..

edit: ^^^ beat me to it

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This post is meant to inform anyone who has to date purchased a “Great Scott” ski from ON3P, or those who are considering a future purchase. In late October, ON3P received a cease and desist order from SCOTT USA Ltd., and its affiliates SCOTT Sports SA and SCOTT USA Inc., demanding ON3P immediately cease commercialization and sales of all “Great Scott” branded skis for reasons of trademark infringement.

We are current exploring the legality of the use of “Scott” in the name of our ski “Great Scott” and should reach a decision in the near future.

Once we have reached a decision, I will post an update on the matter.

Scott Andrus
Counter them....I mean your name is Scott.

Or, just rename it the Great Scot and get on with more important things.
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:07 PM
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whats with all the industry hostality
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:08 PM
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WTF is up with all the bullshit? WME/Level 1, Vermonster, Dynafit group buy, and now ON3P, I'm sure there are a bunch of others. Pretty soon we're all going to get sued over our avatars. Good Luck Iggy!
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:10 PM
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And all you fuckers can hereby cease and desist with the "I'm Irie" statements, too.
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:16 PM
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It's trademark protection, they have to pursue anything that could be even considered borderline in order to maintain a track record of protecting the trademark. Hopefully it works out amicably and ON3P doesn't have to rename their skis.
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:18 PM
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Counter them....I mean your name is Scott.

Or, just rename it the Great Scot and get on with more important things.
This.

Or you could name it the Vermonster Monster
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:21 PM
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Your max loss is a batch of tops and a new name if you make the change.
It's a fixed cost.
Lawyers fees can sometimes seem to never end.
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:23 PM
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Thats fucked. Whats more fucked is that a ski industry company is sue happy.
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:34 PM
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It's trademark protection, they have to pursue anything that could be even considered borderline in order to maintain a track record of protecting the trademark. Hopefully it works out amicably and ON3P doesn't have to rename their skis.
That's dumb. All these companies should realize they aren't really losing any money on all this trademark BS. They should hire fewer lawyers (probably wasting more money than they are losing from this supposed infringement) and go have more fun with their gear - apologies to all the lawyer maggots out there - though we know everyone here is really a dentist, not a lawyer.
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:38 PM
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Well, any publicity is good publicity, so this might end up being pretty good for business, lost tops sheets or not...
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:46 PM
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It's trademark protection, they have to pursue anything that could be even considered borderline in order to maintain a track record of protecting the trademark. Hopefully it works out amicably and ON3P doesn't have to rename their skis.
No, you're wrong. Its just a big company with deep pockets doing this shit because they know, regardless of whether or not they have the legal right, the little guy won't have enough money to fight them so they can do whatever they want and get away with it.
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:47 PM
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Well, any publicity is good publicity, so this might end up being pretty good for business, lost tops sheets or not...
I was thinking the same thing. This should be an article in every ski magazine, and in the paper. Get ON3P out there. In the end splat is right about the cost.
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:54 PM
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:56 PM
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Change the name to Great Warren Miller and see what happens.
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Well it's your fucking fault for being named Scott

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remember shit like this when you see the posts about
who to buy from, the mag companies or the big companies...


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Old 11-01-2009, 10:12 PM
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Don't know trademark law but I have heard you need to police your trademarks to maintain them. I think some companies push it too far, though. Monster audio cables is a company that comes to mind. They seem to sue any company with monster in its name, regardless of what area the company operates in. A friend of mine who owns a bike company ran into a similar issue. They probably could have fought back but ended up just using a symbol for European sales instead of incurring tons of legal fees. Good luck with this.
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Old 11-01-2009, 10:22 PM
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"Great Andrus" sounds pretty bad-ass.

Go with Splat's advice, something like this could kill a young company. Entrepreneurs are successful when they can lose a few of the small battles yet still win the war.
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Old 11-01-2009, 10:30 PM
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you have choices
1. countersue - They are using your name.
2. Change the name to the "Great Scot", keep the top sheets and cross out the second 't'. This will mesh well with the publicity you receive due to the suit.
3. ignore the letter, and then later after you miss the court date blame it on your secretary.
4. Change the name to the "Great P4"
5. it's possible they are pissed because they have a "Great Scott" in the pipeline. if that's the case you should change the name of yours to the "Hate Scott"
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