Igneous R/R/C snowboard picture time!

[arild]

Yep, finally.

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So yeah, that´s it. Not much to say but I´m stoked. Heavy as fuck (not really - 6900g w/binders), stiff as shit, low tips, healthy amount of reverse camber, etc etc etc.

Mot@Igneous rules.

[arild]

Oh, from carpet jibbing it seems much more nimble and pivoty. Don´t notice the weight on my feet at all. In love.

[marshalolson]

you are required to go to the nearest snow patch and shred it, STAT!

[Huck_Schmuck]

I love the candid shots. Once you ski the 13s the board will end up in Gear Swap...

[bobbuilds]

wow, nice board. All I can say is HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO........

that is sic.

[huckbucket]

yea, but how does it skootch?

[arild]

you are required to go to the nearest snow patch and shred it, STAT!

Definitely working on it.

I love the candid shots. Once you ski the 13s the board will end up in Gear Swap...

Re: candids.
Because of my impressive stash of TP that sneaks its way in on every photo?
Re: thirteens.
I think a lot of things will be sold this coming season. Neither thethirteens nor sweet Iggy "Kristian" (Mot and I named her) are on that list.
By the way, 09/10 thirteens seem a touch or two stiffer than 08/09s from hand-shop-flexing. Gnar.

yea, but how does it skootch?

I skootched a staggering 20cm in my very gear crowded living room, and am now convinced skootching will be the death of me.

[fat yeti]

Thats a nice looking board, Im sure it will ride better than it looks.

[LightRanger]

Eyegasm.

[legallyillegal]

do you also have brown boots and brown outerwear

[arild]

Nope, and I´m glad.

Thanks for all the comments. If anyone has any questions, I´d be happy to answer them.

[advres]

I don't get it....

Why bother with a reverse sidecut board if you're riding so far back? The nice thing about my Hammock is that I can rock it centered, ride switch or regs with the same float and not never submarine. Why didn't you just have them make a rocker pintail if you weren't gonna ride it centered? Or at least have a progressize reverse sidecut that is more under your stance? For some reason I don't think this board is going to perform the way you hope. Sure it will stay afloat in the pow and blaze away but it will probably be unmanageable at best in any type of mank or tranverse.

Give my love to Gatehouse. Haven't seen him in a couple years and after working with him for a while I can say he's good peeps. But I still don't understand the board...

[arild]

I don't get it....

Why bother with a reverse sidecut board if you're riding so far back? The nice thing about my Hammock is that I can rock it centered, ride switch or regs with the same float and not never submarine. Why didn't you just have them make a rocker pintail if you weren't gonna ride it centered? Or at least have a progressize reverse sidecut that is more under your stance? For some reason I don't think this board is going to perform the way you hope. Sure it will stay afloat in the pow and blaze away but it will probably be unmanageable at best in any type of mank or tranverse.

Give my love to Gatehouse. Haven't seen him in a couple years and after working with him for a while I can say he's good peeps. But I still don't understand the board...

Appreciate the questioning, Advres, I get why you´re having your doubts.
The setback, stance and reverse sidecut is like that because I want to have the opportunity to ride switch, but not necessarily doing so all the time (think more for sideslipping a couly entrance or forced switch traversing, etc). I do have some adjustment to play with - binding mounting discs can be turned, and there is a bunch of stuff to do with the actual inserts, so I´m not too worried.

Yeah, it will suck for traverses, but really, which boards don´t? Snowboards really do suck for traversing, you and I know that.
If anything, though, I can´t see how the rev sidecut would be any worse than a regular one. Besides, there is virtually no edge overhang with my boots, so the toe/heel clipping in such situations should be minimized.

This is a highly experimental board design, and again, I get your doubts. It´s not going to be versatile, at least I highly doubt it given the size and general design of it. In soft snow, though, I know it will perform. There is absolutely no indication it won´t.

I did some proper measuring of the width, and it seems as if the photos are a bit misleading. Dead center between the bindings, it is 295.6mm wide, on the outside of the front binding, it is 290.5mm wide, and on the outside of the back binding, it is 286.5mm wide. Unscientific measuring band style. I need a big ruler!

Let me know if you have any more questions and comments. It´s fun trying to explain the thought process surrounding the design.



Edit: Gatehouse and Parris are probably reading this, so your love is already given.

[advres]

Don't get me wrong... I understand reverse sidecut because that is what my hammock is. And by your measurements it does seem to have the widest section under your feet. That was what I was concerned about. My only thought was if the widest part of the board was only slightly past your front binding... it would create issues.

That being said, if you haven't rode a r/r board before.... it is going to blow your sock off! Seriously, I was amazed at how unsinkable my 160 hammock was when I first jumped on it. And as you already understand, they ar pow specific and do that well.

One thing I came to realize. If you have to get on a mank to get to get to the goods you need to rethink turning. What I found easiest was to literally slash, almost like when you were learning. It is the only way to make them turn when you aren't in the deep. If you try to lean and do a standard carve, it will literally pull you to the ground. It's like starting all over but in a good way!!!

My concerns have been quelled. I think you're gonna love it.

[arild]

I know you´re familiar with a reverse sidecut snowboard (the almighty One that TRice put on the market), and therefore, I´m really stoked to get your input and pointers on the design and how to ride it, haha. Haven´t rode an R/R board before, so this is definitely the devirginizer. I´m coming to the states next season for some playing in the mountains, would love for us to cross paths and exchange boards for a day!

Glad I could persuade you into thinking this was a good idea.. From the picture, I can definitely see it being overly obese around the front binding, which wouldn´t be good at all, and completely counter to my plan of R/R. Not the case, though.
Mot pulled this fucking thing off!

Edit: No comments on the binders, Advres? Disappointed. I know you have love for Unions.

[advres]

Ohh I noticed them! I just assumed anyone smart enough to have a custom r/r board made by Mot would at least be smart enough to rock Unions.

[arild]

Well said.
I never really figure out how to break them, so I end up selling them every once in a while. Think I´ve had two pair of Forces, an additional pair of wood DLXs, two pair of Datas, and now these. Solid stuff, damn comfortable. I do have a pair of spare carbon baseplates for them (milled out homotrocities), but for now, I like the wooden look. Heehee.

I´m thinking of putting Cadets on my rock board, mainly to have a cadaver pair to sneak parts from. They are CHEAP!

Edit: Why I keep selling them is beyond me. That´s coming to an end, now.

[rabbit]

Damn that shape looks weird!
But nice, very nice indeed.

What happened to baseless bindings?
I used to dream of baseless tele-bindings but never got it to work. That feel was one of the sweeter things with snowboarding.
/r

[advres]

Damn that shape looks weird!
But nice, very nice indeed.

What happened to baseless bindings?
I used to dream of baseless tele-bindings but never got it to work. That feel was one of the sweeter things with snowboarding.
/r

Baseless bindings were probably the single stupidest things that ever happened to snowboarding.

[rabbit]

Baseless bindings were probably the single stupidest things that ever happened to snowboarding.

Im guessing you didnt like 'em.

Personally I loved the feel/contact with the board/snow. Sure, there were drawbacks. Couldnt move the stance around bla bla bla

In my efforts to never leave a stone unturned, nor a turd unstoned, could you please enlighten me as to why they were "the single stupidest thing that ever happened to snowboarding"?
I thought that was the leashes.

/r

[advres]

...could you please enlighten me as to why they were "the single stupidest thing that ever happened to snowboarding"?

Having maximum angles of like 12º
VERY limited stance width options
crushed flex patterns
were 'bendy' with no response
almost all super lowbacks
need wider boards to stop toe drag
no gas pedals
no dampening for hard landings
etc...

This is of course only my opinion.

/free bump

[esagen]

I thought that was the leashes.

2nd on the leashes! wtf?

[arild]

Leash rules are probably the stupidest idea in snowboarding ever. It has to be said that it wasn´t snowboarders who forced it on themselves, rather ski areas´ lawyers and insurance companies who deemed it dangerous to snowboard.

Baseless binders were part of the evolution of snowboarding - it didn´t work out, thus stopping production. You could go buy into Burton´s ICS/EST, and you can supposedly remove the baseplate/padding on those to get that baseless feel. I won´t.

Thread drift, though.

[Sublime]

Awesome looking deck the thing just ooozesss quality. What kind of wood did you use for the core in that? Poplar? For your sidewall it looks kinda like he did a little bit of a roundover?

Raiden(Nitro) came out with the Phantom this year pretty crazy looking binding. It has a little disc maybe 2'' inches that you hook up with only two screws. Improved board feel but you lost a little bit of power. I've fondled the Unions but have never pulled the trigger on them. They seem no frills solid but I love how comfy the 390's are. I will have to make a decision sometime before the snow flys though.

Raiden Phanton vs 390's vs Union ???

Sorry for the highjack hope you ride that thing till the motherfuckin wheels fall off.

[rabbit]

about that concavity...
(looking from top)

I thought there would be more.
How did you even come up with a measure of the amount of concavity? How much is there?
Is it a continuous concavity or "edge-rocker"?
Is the plan to go razor-sharp on the edges and have the concavity off-set that for slide/slarve/slashability?
Can I get this on next years Lotus 138's?
Ill have to think again about the baseless telebinders. Any ideas welcome. Please pm to avoid thread drift if youve thought about it and are reading this.

-peace
/r

ps/thanx advres for "the list" /ds