New Intuition fitting instructions

[Roxtar]

I just received my new powerwraps.
They came with fitting instructions I've never heard of before.
Has anyone tried the new microwaving sock-o-rice method Intuition is recommending?
If so, comments on effectiveness?

[Beder]

this needs bumping

[Roxtar]

Well, to somewhat answer my own post, I spoke to Mark at Intuition.
He said this method works extremely well and is the best/easiest way to DIY.

It seems like a pretty idiotproof way to do it.
Install liners in boots, fill sock with rice, nuke the crap out of the rice, stuff rice/sock into liners for 5-7 minutes, put on boot.

[Skidog]

I dont know how it works for fitting the boot liners, but I know my wife uses this sock like thing thats filler with rice for her neck sometimes. The rice stays warm for a good amount of time. Doesnt seem to me like its going to ever get hot enough to mold intuition liners. I'd try Yoopers method listed here. Though I was not ambitious enough to bother with the boot spreader it works just fine.

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...ghlight=liners

Good luck!

[Roxtar]

I dont know how it works for fitting the boot liners, but I know my wife uses this sock like thing thats filler with rice for her neck sometimes. The rice stays warm for a good amount of time. Doesnt seem to me like its going to ever get hot enough to mold intuition liners. I'd try Yoopers method listed here. Though I was not ambitious enough to bother with the boot spreader it works just fine.

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...ghlight=liners

Good luck!

Funny, my wife has the same thing. Didn't know it was rice inside, though.
It gets heated for a much shorter time, however.
5-7 minutes in the microwave should damn near melt rice.

[Skidog]

Funny, my wife has the same thing. Didn't know it was rice inside, though.
It gets heated for a much shorter time, however.
5-7 minutes in the microwave should damn near melt rice.

I dont think rice would ever melt...give it a shot though

[Wild4umlauts]

I find it really hard to believe that an Intuition liner that hasn't been pre-formed for the boot (by the shell manufacturer) would get as good of a fit using this new method. I think that this is a CYA maneuver by Intuition because so many people screw up the molding process and then probably ask Intuition to replace their liners.

If you want the liner to mold to the boot and your foot then I'd think you've got to stick to the oven method.

[GapersGoHome]

I find it really hard to believe that an Intuition liner that hasn't been pre-formed for the boot (by the shell manufacturer) would get as good of a fit using this new method. I think that this is a CYA maneuver by Intuition because so many people screw up the molding process and then probably ask Intuition to replace their liners.

If you want the liner to mold to the boot and your foot then I'd think you've got to stick to the oven method.

x2. Unless you have a homebrew spreader setup, you're S.O.L, especially if it's your first time. There is no way that RICE could heat up the entire thickness of an Intuition. Either spend the $30 to get them done in a shop that's worth its salt, or build a spreader for over $30.

[Skidog]

x2. Unless you have a homebrew spreader setup, you're S.O.L, especially if it's your first time. There is no way that RICE could heat up the entire thickness of an Intuition. Either spend the $30 to get them done in a shop that's worth its salt, or build a spreader for over $30.

Ive done a few without a spreader with good results. Im pretty sure Black Diamond here locally baked my g-fits last season and there was also no boot spreader.

I agree the rice idea aint going to work and is certainly a CYA on intuitions part. They got sick of people burning their liners in the oven.

[Roxtar]

I find it really hard to believe that an Intuition liner that hasn't been pre-formed for the boot (by the shell manufacturer) would get as good of a fit using this new method. I think that this is a CYA maneuver by Intuition because so many people screw up the molding process and then probably ask Intuition to replace their liners.

If you want the liner to mold to the boot and your foot then I'd think you've got to stick to the oven method.

Don't Intuition dealers, as in boot fitters, use the hot air method instead of oven baking?
The rice method should work at least as good as that.

I'd guess all three methods will allow the entire liner, inside to outside, to heat up enough to mold.
This does insure that the liner ends up installed in the shell correctly. Not a bad thing, AFAIC.

[knumbskull]

I used the rice and it worked great. I don't know what these guys are talking about.

[Wild4umlauts]

I used the rice and it worked great. I don't know what these guys are talking about.

So I'm interested in what the OUTSIDE of your liner looks like after using the rice method (aka Chinese take-out method - I like that). Do you have sharp imprints of all the rivets, etc. from the boots internals? I'd like to see a pic if you've got one.

[knumbskull]

I'll try and remember to take a picture when I go home, which I wasn't planning on doing tonight.

[Skidog]

I used the rice and it worked great. I don't know what these guys are talking about.

Id just like to know how it heats all the way up the cuff? Seems this would only bake the liner portion that you put your foot in...you need to mold the cuff too up your calf.

????

[Roxtar]

Id just like to know how it heats all the way up the cuff? Seems this would only bake the liner portion that you put your foot in...you need to mold the cuff too up your calf.

????

That was one of the things I asked Mark at Intuition.
He said 3lbs is a lot of rice.
Apparently you end up with the rice filling the majority of the liner.

[Jersey Skier]

I tried it last week. I'm not sure the sock-o-rice reached far enough into the liner to really heat the toe area, so they didn't really mold in that area. So since everything else felt good, I figured I'd try to just remold the toe area using the same method.

I put about a softball size of rice in the same sock and tried to nuke it for 2 minutes. At about 90 seconds I smelt the burning and the sock just melted open & brown rice just kept erupting out of the melted hole. House smelt great, wife was thrilled. Haven't had the guts to try again. Not sure how many times you can do this to the same batch of rice.

[knumbskull]

Id just like to know how it heats all the way up the cuff? Seems this would only bake the liner portion that you put your foot in...you need to mold the cuff too up your calf.

????

3lbs is alot of rice. It filled the liner about 3" short of the top of the cuff.

When microwaving the rice for the second boot don't leave it in there as long, the rice should still be pretty warm.

[Jersey Skier]

3lbs is alot of rice. It filled the liner about 3" short of the top of the cuff.

When microwaving the rice for the second boot don't leave it in there as long, the rice should still be pretty warm.

My size 10 boot used 4 lbs. of rice molding a Luxury Liner.

[mach.850]

Due to my skepticism of the 'chinese take-out' method I cooked mine in the oven last night, followed all of yooper's info (awesome BTW) from the other thread EXCEPT the stretcher. If you live in a cabin isolated from other opposable-thumbed mammals that can follow instructions then, by all means, build a stretcher. I used the 'Buy an 18 pack of High Life and Invite Two Buddies Over' technique. It worked well and they skied great today (opened East Wall at A-Basin) minus the over-tightening that others have mentioned. Once I loosened them up there were bomber.

[Beder]

I've been away until today. Got home to find my liners from Johnny. I got 2 pair of thin hose, one toe cap, but no "rice bag" or instructions for diy.

If anyone would be willing to send me the bag and instructions I'll send you postage and sixer money. Thanks.

[mach.850]

Basically you put the rice in one sock and wear the other with the toe cap. One sock for rice, one for feet. I will scan and email the instructions to you tomorrow if I have time, PM me your email.

Although, I also recommend checking out the thread on this started by yooper. It's got great info and on page 3 or so gives good intel on using a conventional oven.

[smolakian]

I've been away until today. Got home to find my liners from Johnny. I got 2 pair of thin hose, one toe cap, but no "rice bag" or instructions for diy.

If anyone would be willing to send me the bag and instructions I'll send you postage and sixer money. Thanks.

You just use one of the socks for the rice bag...

I have the instructions but don't feel like typing them out...yes I'm that lazy.

e-mail intuition and I'm sure they'll reply with a copy of the instructions.

Personally, I'm probably gonna take 'em back to a shop with the oven or cook 'em the traditional way. I just don't think there was enough heat in the rice to give a proper full 'shell/foam/foot' mold. They kicked ass like a whole new pair of boots when I skied them on Saturday but my heels and toes were killing me by the end of the day.

[Beder]

I just got the instructions from Intuition. Shoulda realized the socks were the rice bag.