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Today, 02:14 PM
SkiED
Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006
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Marker Dukes Explosion!
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Well I deserved this for buying a marker. I was making pow turns down a 30 degree wide open powder field when all of a sudden I am thrown into tele mode and eat shit into a stand of trees. Basically what happened was that the two center screws on each binding totally ripped out of the ski causing the toe piece to snap in half. Pretty much exactly what happened to this dude:
http://www.newschoolers.com/web/foru...338014/page/2/
Since the binding is basically a system binding which allows the toe and heel pieces to flex and slide along the rails of the toe and heel plates the binding is basically held down to the ski by the one center screw. So when I went to make a hard powder turn and my ski flexed all that force loaded up on that one center screw and surprise surprise it ripped out.
I called marker and of course this isnt their fault, they either blame the mount job or the ski(black diamonds). So what I am wondering is how many other people have had this issue with the center screw? Its obviously the weak point in the binding and if anything breaks I would think it would be this one small screw trying to hold the whole binding onto the ski. So ya anyone else with marker dukes broken like me or the guy above?? I would love to hear some more info on them. thanks
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Today, 02:24 PM
grskier
Um, yeah, that guy Join Date: Jan 2006
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pics?
I've had some decent flex going on with a Duke and haven't had an issue yet....
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Today, 02:29 PM
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Today, 02:30 PM
Greydon Clark
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The thread on NewSchoolers is predictably retarded; I especially enjoy the fellow who cites all the “big mountain rippers” on Markers and in the next breath is spewing that “if you jump you’ll break things”. Classic.
I have not insight into your problem, but best of luck.
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Today, 02:38 PM
DropCliffsNotBombs
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I hate to say "I told you so," but....
I would say that it wasn't my fault too, if I hadn't tested the product, and was sold out of replacement bindings for warranty replacements! Way to go Marker!
Everyone seemed to think (at the beginning of the season) that this new untested and poorly designed AT binding was the best thing since sliced bread! Turns out it's just an expensive, heavy, un-user friendly, over DINed, gaper magnet!!
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Today, 02:55 PM
Dynafit
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silly, silly amerikans. dis is vat youz gets for buying dis piece of chit binding. all metal, de dynafit, sanctionedz by ze likes of lou dawson, pechelman, and jonathan s. dis is the binding for you!
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Today, 03:00 PM
StroupSkier
Living on the least coast Join Date: Dec 2004
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Originally Posted by DropCliffsNotBombs
I hate to say "I told you so," but....
I would say that it wasn't my fault too, if I hadn't tested the product, and was sold out of replacement bindings for warranty replacements! Way to go Marker!
Everyone seemed to think (at the beginning of the season) that this new untested and poorly designed AT binding was the best thing since sliced bread! Turns out it's just an expensive, heavy, un-user friendly, over DINed, gaper magnet!!
Funny...
You have done nothing but bash the Duke since it came out and most of your post offer no insight into why other than "They suck".
Also, you have put false claims into the fact that Marker sold out everything and has no bindings left for warranty and admitted at one point to having not even tested them yet.
Go back to your hole.
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Today, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SkiED
Basically what happened was that the two center screws on each binding totally ripped out of the ski causing the toe piece to snap in half.
on BOTH skis at the same time!!!??? holy shit. I'm officially pissed at myself that I'm on dukes. I was feeling some trepidation about it after seeing the touring issue that pulled the binding off the ski... but this is stupid.
both skis snapped the toe attatchment piece? that's crazy.
I'm definitely not feeling inspired to take these out very far from the road.
... I guess the one upshot is that I'm on praxis which don't really flex. hopefully they'll last for me.
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Today, 03:17 PM
snoboy
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So... we seem to have identified the weak point on the Duke. Any ideas on how to beef it up, or is this going to require some redesign? If I understand correctly what's breaking, it shouldn't be too hard for Marker to make that piece a bit burlier/add another screw to it.
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Today, 03:22 PM
Conundrum
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I think people are a little quick to judge here. If everyone posted everytime a binding broke, the mayor of tech talk would have to come in here and kick some ass. 916s, p18s, Markers, every type of bindings has instances of failure. I've got some days on my dukes now with some decent skiing on them and haven't had a problem yet. I'm pretty heavy and have them on some burley skis. I won't say much about my skiing level because it's all relative.
Am I going to be pissed if they break, yes. Would I be more pissed than if any of my other bindings broke, no.
Just to understand your situation though, are the dukes broken or did they pull out of the skis and are still intact?
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Today, 03:32 PM
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I think people are a little quick to judge here. If everyone posted everytime a binding broke, the mayor of tech talk would have to come in here and kick some ass. 916s, p18s, Markers, every type of bindings has instances of failure. I've got some days on my dukes now with some decent skiing on them and haven't had a problem yet. I'm pretty heavy and have them on some burley skis. I won't say much about my skiing level because it's all relative.
Am I going to be pissed if they break, yes. Would I be more pissed than if any of my other bindings broke, no.
Just to understand your situation though, are the dukes broken or did they pull out of the skis and are still intact?
Yea come on now!! JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS! theres other variables to take into consideration here. the ski maybe, Mount job..... the list goes on
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