Thread: How to punch out ski boots?
10-23-2007, 03:31 PM #1
10-23-2007, 03:56 PM #2
1) until the shell is 170' keeping the heat gun 10" away.
until the shell is warm to the touch on the inside of the shell
3) practice a few times on a dead boot first
10-23-2007, 04:19 PM #3
10-23-2007, 04:49 PM #4
The translucent plastic on some newer boots (i.e. Nordica Top Fuel) seems to respond to heat moreso than standard boot plastic does. So if you have a boots with a semi-transparent shell be cautious you don't punch too much.
10-23-2007, 04:52 PM #5
Second the very hot water suggestion. But...
"Small pressure points" can often be solved without blowing the shell and if you do blow out the shell for a small area there is a good chance it will come back into shape so try the liner first.
Use a utility knife to remove material where you need more space. Just a little at a time. Be patient. Sometimes just slicing a # type pattern over the pressure point will do the trick.
10-23-2007, 05:06 PM #6
2) I have found that extremely soft (AT/Tele) and extremely dense/stiff (plug) durometer plastics will not hold a punch as well. Plugs were obviously meant for grinding, sometimes in conjunction with a punch.
3) Be sure you don't take the sole shape out of DIN (i.e. big toe punches).
10-23-2007, 05:19 PM #7
10-23-2007, 06:03 PM #8
Rule of thumb: All boots can be punched, some require more care (multi injected ones, translucent, etc.) Not all boots can be ground...most cheap boots and some midrange boots suck donkey ball to grind.
The idea that plugs won't hold a punch is, well, not reflected by my experience...but then my experience is with purpose built tools. Hydraulics are nice to have for toe punches, not needed elsewhere. If you are going to punch, punch first then grind. Again this comes from the context of good tools though, I guess if you are trying to punch a boot with a screwdriver handle in your garage you might have to do things differently.
This thread makes me want to junkyard engineer some boot tools.
10-23-2007, 08:37 PM #9
If the boots are brand new, the pressure point might be more the liner than the shell. Sometimes boot manufacturers will leave a gap between the shell and the liner in the toe box. I had a pressure point fixed last year by using a heat gun on the pressure point while wearing the boot. Once I could feel the heat through the boot, I did the other foot and kept them on with weight on them for about an hour. It hurt for that hour, but after that, the liner had been stretched out enough, and I've had no problems since.
10-23-2007, 09:04 PM #10
It cost only $10 to do a toe punch. The process took overnight, and it seems to be permanent. Is this any different than the heat gun?
10-23-2007, 09:13 PM #11
For 10 bucks you might wonder why people are talking about doing this at home, sadly I'm broke enough to completely get it.
10-24-2007, 03:05 AM #12
Rontele: thanks for the double-edged praise
mntlion: good point. I think I have an appropriate boot shell to practice on.
Also, by the time I drive to the shop and back twice I can have already done it myself.
10-24-2007, 03:07 AM #13
Both very valid reasons to DIY as well.
/need to get a Foredom.
10-24-2007, 07:01 AM #14
10-24-2007, 10:05 AM #15
A lot of this depends on where the pressure point lies on your foot. Is it a toe, 6th toe, heel, etc.? Certain points are going to be a lot simpler to improvise tools for.
10-24-2007, 10:42 AM #16
I do so miss Mike Tyson Nude Punch Out.
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10-24-2007, 11:45 AM #17
I think they actually had the boots in the machine for a long time. I brought two pairs to do, and they could not get them both done on the same day.
I called them to ask about the process. The tech said that he puts the boot in a hydraulic press, and uses a heat gun several times over the course of a day or more to increase the chances for a more permanent punch.
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10-24-2007, 12:24 PM #18
03-17-2015, 08:30 AM #19Minion
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Redneck boot punching
I have a wide foot. I bought a pair of Gamount GSM compacts 30.5 and my sixth toe killed me the minute I put them on. I could downhill ski okay, but skinning and climbing was unbearable. It took me several tries but i found something that worked for me. I went to hardware and second hand stores and scrounged up a small soup ladle that fit my ski boots nicely. I also purchased a very small turnbuckle to use as my hydraulic press. I cut the handle off the soup ladle and used the bowl part as my pushing die; where I wanted to move the plastic. I drilled a small hole in the center of the bowl with a small nail through it into one side of the turnbuckle where I removed one screw. On the other side of the boot I placed a thin piece of wood with mastic and duct tape to keep the instep side from slipping. I placed the pressing rig inside the boot with some moderate tension before heating the boots. I do not have a heat gun and so used a Mr Heater and infrared thermometer to heat boots to over 300F. I kept a bowl with wet washrags handy to cool things if necessary. An icepack might be better. The idea is to heat outside of boot and let heat sink in a couple times and then if needed adjust turnbuckle out with boot hot. I found that the blue garmounts just began to smoke and blister when I got too hot so watch it carefully. The plastic moves really easy when hot.
The things I am considering to improve would be to use a bolt with a long nut to make your press. that way you could use a ratchet wrench to push out. This process took a while for me. I am a cheapskate, but if I could have paid someone in town to do it I would have come out ahead. Good luck and go slow. I first heated my boots to 200f, and 250 f. There is a good Utube video of a guy with all the right stuff; hydraulic rams and heatgun (infrared thermometer). Well worth watching before you start.
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01-03-2017, 12:14 AM #20Registered User
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Need a bit of stretching for my 5th/6th toe. What's the latest in DIY technology/wisdom?
Got the heat gun and infrared thermometer already. I am going to try a wooden boot spreader with AL foil wrapped around it for protection. Got an old shell to practice on, we'll see how it goes.
01-03-2017, 09:07 AM #21
add 2-5mm of high denstiy foam to your foot, heat shell in hot water bath for a few min at 70ish'C, put foot (with padding on it) into liner, put liner into shell, buckle it down HARD, like max it out. Drink beer, wait 10 min, remove foot, remove padding, wait for feeling to come back into foot, and try the boot on again.
01-03-2017, 09:14 AM #22
boot punches are super cheap. Heat is easy, but its the hydraulic press that you are missing.
I am all for saving a buck, but you are talking about a few beers $
Usually the press is left on for a few hours to let it hold.
Also, I have seen more than a few folks walk in asking for a punch in a certain area, and the ace fitter punches the other side or makes other adjustments that make more sense.
I thought I needed a punch once, but the liner was too tight, so he made vertical slices in the outside of the liner - that gave me the room I needed. Its little shit like that.
Check your bare foot in the bare shell. Observe clearance all around.
Also check your foot in the liner with no shell. If that feels tight in spots, you may need some release.What??
01-03-2017, 09:15 AM #23Registered User
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01-03-2017, 09:20 AM #24
One other thing is that the shop presses have different sized heads, depending on where the punch is and how big an area needs to be pushed.What??
01-03-2017, 10:39 AM #25
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