WHITEFACE CREAM OF THE CROP FOR EAST COAST!

**HRDCORESNOWRIDE** · 04-04-2004, 09:58 AM

And i gets to call this mountain my home mountain.

Whiteface got rated the #1 ski area in the east for the 3ird time in a row by SKI magezine. Let me mind you that its also got the biggest vertical drop in the east with 3,400 feet of "whoopty-doop-kick-your-ass-leg-burning-hip-smakin-clif huckin-sicko terrain.

sucks though because our mtn. is closing next weekend

The slides are defiantly the steepest and closest terrain as the east gets to ak or British colombia

it's starting to dump now!!

http://orda.org/WFCam.jpg

**Lone Star** · 04-04-2004, 10:01 AM

and up next, we'll be showing you the world's tallest midget... stay tuned, folks!

**DaveTV** · 04-04-2004, 10:01 AM

Whiteface got rated the #1 ski area in the east for the 3ird time in a row by SKI magezine.

That and a nickel will get you a cup of coffee here...

**HRDCORESNOWRIDE** · 04-04-2004, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by DaveTV
That and a nickel will get you a cup of coffee here...

i know i know, ski magazine isn't as reputtable as powder or FREEZE, but it's still a rating and i hafta take pride in my mountain!

**glademaster** · 04-04-2004, 10:31 AM

Damn dude, take it easy with the caps in the thread title, I always feel like you're yelling at me.

-Ben

**HRDCORESNOWRIDE** · 04-04-2004, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by glademaster
Damn dude, take it easy with the caps in the thread title, I always feel like you're yelling at me.

-Ben

sorry about that Ben. I must have left the caps key on or somethin.

here's some stoke from a few weeks ago that will make up for it:

http://www.biglines.com/photos/blpic21620.jpg

**milton** · 04-04-2004, 10:46 AM

JUST CURIOUS, how many days have the slides been open this year?

**HRDCORESNOWRIDE** · 04-04-2004, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by milton
JUST CURIOUS, how many days have the slides been open this year?

not very many. They just opened them up about 2.5 weeks ago, right after our last big storm. kinda sucks, but when they are open, IT"S ON!

Z · 04-04-2004, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by HRDCORESNOWRIDE
And i gets to call this mountain my home mountain.
Whiteface got rated the #1 ski area in the east for the 3ird time in a row by SKI magezine. Let me mind you that its also got the biggest vertical drop in the east with 3,400 feet of "whoopty-doop-kick-your-ass-leg-burning-hip-smakin-clif huckin-sicko terrain.

sucks though because our mtn. is closing next weekend

The slides are defiantly the steepest and closest terrain as the east gets to ak or British colombia

it's starting to dump now!!

http://orda.org/WFCam.jpg

SPAM?

**T Bird** · 04-04-2004, 01:42 PM

Sorry to rain on your parade, but Iceface isn't even the #1 ski area in New York(Hickory Hill), let alone the east. Biggest vertical drop? Big friggin deal! Most of that is blue terrain anyway. Yes, the slides did open a little while ago, but it was only for what, 2 days? Most years they don't open at all. Even in "the winter that could", they were only open a couple weeks. So lets see; Iceface averages about 150" per year while there are several areas in the northeast that get 300" or so. Most of those are in Northern VT/Southern QC. The tree skiing & up there is vastly superior to anything in New York. But located in olympic Lake Placid Iceface is rated#1, despite More snow and better terrain elsewhere.

**lax** · 04-04-2004, 02:08 PM

jay peak...do pics need to be posted...jay stoke much there is

**crashnburn'd** · 04-04-2004, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by HRDCORESNOWRIDE
http://www.biglines.com/photos/blpic21620.jpg

ARE THERE NO PARKING LOTS AT THIS PLACE?

**CantDog** · 04-04-2004, 03:50 PM

Wheres the "your biggest huck thread"?

**snowrider** · 04-04-2004, 04:25 PM

someone mentioned Jay above, but Stowe destroys whiteface in everything. The Slides? haven't ever skied them, but stowe has nasty terrain that is available to ski whenver.

**laseranimal** · 04-04-2004, 05:04 PM

yeah I love whiteface/placid but I have to wonder how it gets such high marks(not that I put much stock in Ski rankings anyway) Ski readers are the 40+ set that lives in the NYC-DC-Boston megalopolis and values how good the mint that they get after the hotel staff turns down their bed for them equal or above what kind of terrain is availible at the mountain.

Now I could understand how killington, stratton, and tremblant get such high marks from them but tremblant and whiteface are SO far away from where they're typical reader is located and in the case of whiteface gets about one tenth of the skier visits that K mart gets. Dare I say it that the contest is RIGGED?

. Snowrider you have to ask yourself how would whiteface due in a survey if they DIDN'T account for Lake Placid's activities/nightlife. I guarentee that it wouldn't break the top 5 in the east.

I hate slamming the mountain but its got shitty snowfall, freezing cold winds, and a SERIOUS underutilization of terrain. I wish Sandy and the rest of the ORDA marketing machine would stop thumping they're chest about the Slides. A. They're never open and B. When they do open its only for a day or two. There is SO much better terrain around the High Peaks that you don't have to pay $60 to ski. It really upsets me every time I go to whiteface because the mountain could be SO much better. More trees more bumps and more open terrain, I can't even tell you the last time I got a chance to ski Empire since there's ALWAYS a rope up. Same thing with the line under the Gondola and the Summit Quad, tell the hippy tree huggers that fight terrain expansion that the trees are already gone, and let me go ski there it'd be so much easier then fighting to get a lodge/resteraunt on top of little whiteface which is probably the LAST thing that whiteface needs.

Whiteface needs to do the following in order to legitimize its claim to #1 status

[list=1][*]do something about the bottleneck that forms below the Mid Station lodge so that people who want to ski fast can get all 3665(or whatever the vert is) without slowing down or worring about hitting an intermediate skier on lower valley(this would also help them as they wouldn't have to negotiate bumps/extra skier traffic that occurs now)[*]more tree/glade skiing, take a page from Gore on this one and create trails under liftlines so that people like Hardcoresnowrider can show off what kinda mad steeze they have[*]A couple of long steep bump runs, too often all you see is either ice or groomed[*]Better park/pipe I don't ski there but if you build it, they will come[*]More easy terrain for people to learn on, Easy Acres/Kids Kampus just doesn't cut it once people have graduated from there they're stuck skiing Excelsior down to Lower Valley unless they get brave and try to ski mountain run to lower valley[*]More World Cup caliber races, Whiteface was an olymipic mountain and has great terrain for racing, if Bode comes so will the people, just because they want to say they could ski on the same trail as Bode did[*]shuttle service from the town could be VASTLY improved, it makes far to many stops and doesn't get back and forth enough to make it worthwhile to ride, meaning that for families with one car and family members who don't ski one group gets stuck without wheels[/list=1]

Whiteface also has its strong points

[list=1][*]Vert, you just can't get this much anywhere else[*]Crowds, there aren't any[*]Good on mountain food, yeah I try to tell myself that I'm too hardcore to eat lunch but the Chili and deli fresh roast beef sandwiches are too good to pass up :-)[*]Lake Placid, town of a thousand distractions and some of the best resteraunts that I've eaten in[*]with the Cloudsplitter Gondi they have managed to take the weather for the most part out of the equation[*]Its so cold/dry up there that whatever snow does fall is always lighter then anywhere else i've skiied out east[/list=1]

**CantDog** · 04-04-2004, 05:44 PM

Something tells me that laser has been wanting to get that off his chest for a while.

**laseranimal** · 04-04-2004, 06:10 PM

yeah could you tell

I'm up in lake placid/whiteface 8-10 days a year and always leave whiteface feeling like it could easily be the best mountain on the east coast

**HRDCORESNOWRIDE** · 04-04-2004, 10:45 PM

laserdude,
your opinion on my home mountain has some good points and some not so good points. You hit it right on about the park and pipe situation and the over grooming of runs. i'm not a sick bump skier so i don't care too much about that. I do like to throw tricks and step up my air game, so a nice park and pipe would be awesome.
The slides are open more than 2 times per year, you just have to be there at the right time. in my case i live only a short distance away, so i kill it almost everyday they are open. and believe me, when that shizznit is open, ITS FREAKIN ON BUDDY!! WHOOT WHOOT.
Tree skiing is pretty good if you know the mountin. My boy J-Bo usually skins up past the boundaries and theres some killer terrain that is off the map. lot's of huckin and bad ass lines out of the area. i don't ski much of the lower mountain so the lines don't really effect me. i don't eat in the cafeteria either, but i hear the food is great.
And they defiantly get more than 150 inches a year. Lst year we got over 215 inches of powder, and it was light like laser said. i would put it at the top 5 in the east.

**lax** · 04-04-2004, 10:49 PM

http://www.jaypeakresort.com/files/J...4/apod3049.jpg

**shmerham** · 04-05-2004, 06:12 AM

Your counterarguments are great if you're a hick from Plattsburgh or Saranac Lake; otherwise they don't apply. It's so far away; who can get there enough to know where all the tree stashes are? You'd have to ski it 5 days a week all year to be able to score 5 days on the slides. Can't do that if you live 3 hours away.

As for snow: A ski area (private or state owned) isn't going to say they get less snow than they do. That 215 you reported means some years they barely break 100. Ouch!

Can't beat it if your on some sharp gs skis though.

**laseranimal** · 04-05-2004, 08:15 AM

yeah there must be some GREAT stashes at whiteface

since you have to either have to know a local(good luck) or risk getting tossed off the mountain by the ORDA rent a cop ski patrol hunting for them. I realize that the patrol at Whiteface has to be more aggressive to protect gapers from themselves given the terrain there(steep icy and dense trees) but sometimes they go a little over the top. Plus hunting for stashes is no fun since more then half the time you wind up getting closed out because the tree density is tighter then Ted. Strykers asshole before he got into that alternate lifestyle of his.

Plus I don't think the on mountain goods could be all that great anyway. You can always tell how good the goods are going to be by the relationship that the locals have towards sharing them. Like Cashmiro said there are three rungs of stashes 1. is genaral purpose "public" stashes to be shown to visitors without loss of karma points. 2. Are stashes that are only to be shared with close friends and family and 3. Are stashes that are vital to national security and are therefore not shared with anyone. I've poked around and found some stashes at MRG/Sugarbush/Smuggs that are fantastic but you can tell that they fall into category #1 because locals will point them out to you if you ask really nice. Point being if those stashes that seem so amazing to you are genaral purpose stashes you can't even fathom what the top secret stashes are like. The stuff at Whiteface doesn't even rate

**T Bird** · 04-05-2004, 08:30 AM

Originally posted by HRDCORESNOWRIDE
The slides are open more than 2 times per year, you just have to be there at the right time.

And they defiantly get more than 150 inches a year. Lst year we got over 215 inches of powder, and it was light like laser said. i would put it at the top 5 in the east.

A few things. In a typical season, the Slides do not open at all.

150 inches per year was a generous estimate. If you look it up you'll see the exact yearly average is 146. In other words; about the same amount of snow that Jay Peak and Smugglers Notch receive before the end of January.

To go along with the meager snow totals at Whiteface, all of the terrain is south facing - thus the nickname "Iceface".

Based on the actual skiing and throwing out "nightlife, shopping and dining", Whiteface isn't even close to top 5. Not even top 10. It belongs behind (in no particular order)Mt Orford, Mad River Glen, Stowe, Jay Peak, Smugglers Notch, Magic Mountain, Wildcat, Cannon, Sugarbush, Sugarloaf and Sunday River.

**snowsprite** · 04-05-2004, 08:31 AM

What?! They're not going to close next weekend. You guys are supposed to get like a foot and a half of snow or something in the next day. That would be criminal!
Sprite

Ted. Stryker · 04-05-2004, 09:20 AM

Here's a classic thread about a couple of beaters arguing about how good their little shithole ski resorts in the East are.

If you gapers enjoy skiing so much, why not load up the Pinto and drive your asses out to get schooled by ALTAIreadGPSdoing80mphGIRL and ToeJam in some real mountains?? Woooo Hoooo, sick!!!

**T Bird** · 04-05-2004, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by Ted. Stryker
I've got nothing and I'm getting really pissed about it!

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