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09-18-2007, 03:17 PM #1
BZN mags what are your every day skis?
I have to many choices!!!!
so i can proform fischer, rossi, nordica, salomon, armada and volkl, but they never have anything left.
ideally I'd like mantra's or gotama's but that's probably not gonna happen.
I'm really leaning towards prohete's in a 180 with naxos.
I have another ski if it's a lot of hardpack.No longer stuck.
09-18-2007, 03:59 PM #2
I will be splitting my time between 179 Seths, Spats, and THA 187 w/Dukes this year, but YMMV.
Prohetes + Naxos is probably not a bad choice if you're going with a quiver of one.
09-18-2007, 06:12 PM #3
I know jumperbones will back me up...
I wouldn't ski on Naxo's on everyday skis unless your everyday is in the BC. I've trashed a few pair.
Last year I was on some AK King Salmons everyday at Bridger, but ultimately wanted a lil more length. Those are on their way out of here pretty soon.
I skied stiff 188 bros at Bigsky/moonlight and will probably use them as my everyday ski whenever I am inbounds.
09-18-2007, 06:42 PM #4
Back el Rob up I do.
If you want an everyday ski, mount alpine. I don't think A/T bindings are there to the point where they can honestly, truthfully handle everyday skiing without surefire destruction AT SOME POINT. It might not happen immediately, but eventually it will. The only person I've seen pull it off is Buster Highmen, and I don't know how he does it...
Here's what I'm trying, maybe try it if you have the scratch - I'm going to have 2 pairs of the same ski (the Kahuna, I'm a hoarder) - one will be mounted alpine (916s), and the other w/ Dukes. Basically I'll keep the skins in my pack, and if I bring the 916 set I have Trekkers that I can throw in the pack too. Might work, might not.
Stuck, would you be interested in a pair of 2nd gen (green) 189 Seth Pistols? I'm thinking I'm gonna try and use my Kahunas as everyday boards this year, I have pontoons for fat pow days, and then the K's. Also have 179 PEs for when it stops snowing awhile. Not sure I need the 189 Pistols...Originally Posted by BSS
09-18-2007, 06:55 PM #5
ok, I'll def go with some 914 labs or something and trekkersNo longer stuck.
09-18-2007, 06:58 PM #6
I think that's a good idea.
STH 916s?Originally Posted by BSS
09-18-2007, 08:25 PM #7
Prophet 90 with scratch 140s.
09-18-2007, 08:31 PM #8
big daddies, 914s is my main ski
monster m103s some tyrolias are my rock skis.
though when you ski lone peak, they are all rock skis.
for what its worth, i skied a couple seasons on fritschi freerides without ever breaking one. had them on some volkl G-41s and Fischer Big Stix 106.
im bigger than most and ski faster than most for what that's worth. though i dont jump off things very often or from very high. i eventually got really tired of the binding slop and switched back to alpine binders. slop and the occasional insta-tele feature i guess."They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
09-18-2007, 09:24 PM #9
I know they don't have flat tails for skins, but how about ANTs, Katanas, or Scratch Steeze? Sandstorms might fit the bill, too. I know...not a Bozeman guy, but with that list of proforms I'm struggling with why you would get a Porohete...
09-18-2007, 10:25 PM #10
If you want to stick close the the 180 mark, I would take the 180 something Nordica Blowers over the Prohetes anyday.
09-18-2007, 10:31 PM #11Registered User
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legend pro or explosiv - one ski do it all, lots of fun
09-18-2007, 10:40 PM #12
09-19-2007, 07:32 AM #13
The blowers have thin edges although everything else seems pretty solid, I'll be skiing the THA in thin conditions like Lone Peak provides. If you have Volkl options I'd go for the Mantra for an inbound ski.
If your going with Fischer I'd pass on the porohete. Ski the atua or watea, both better skis in my opinion and a whole lot more durable that the porohete/103Driving to Targhee
09-19-2007, 07:41 AM #14
Well, Fischer has it's place... unless you're a rich dentist, most can't afford some lightweight skis like DP Wailers...
So Fischer makes some reasonable light and still well performing touring skis.
But you're right, about them not being the best option for purely lift served...Originally Posted by RootSkier
09-19-2007, 06:50 PM #15
i hear you. Although I've skied some skinier fishers and liked the way they skied.
I think I will try for 184 mantras, but volkl is probably already sold out.
I don't want to go over 105-ish because i have cooltsi's old p+'s for that.
I have a hard snow ski now. Everyone in the shop says they got WAY more warranty returns on head then fisher.
I'm not a maggot worthy skier...yet. I doubt I'll break a ski.
o and we carry Scott, too, but apparently the edge-hold on p4's is a little lacking.
I'm used to Armada Pipe Cleaners right now (85mm). And I have pretty stiff boots, and I know how to ride and edge (from NY), so I wanna go in the high 90's to low 100's in width.No longer stuck.
09-19-2007, 06:59 PM #16
If you ski Pig Sty enough you WILL destroy a pair of skis
Moment Tahoes are me ED ski
but in the past it has been explosiv's
If i was in your shoes i would get ANTs or Blowers
09-19-2007, 09:22 PM #17
BB,BS and MBasin all are really rocky.The rocks on the lower mtn at BB are shaved down the ridge rocks are as sharp as BS /MB. Youre gonna need some shit boards living there.
I have destroyed 1 snowmobile and many boards on rocks around there.I have known plenty of people destroyed on rocks too.Some years are better than others.One thing with the "cold smoke" it dont cover rocks too well.
09-19-2007, 10:06 PM #18
ARV also looked appealing on the skinnier side.
blower looks a little wide, but maybe not.
I kinda like the construction and shape and idea of the prohete, that's all, I haven't hand fondled them yet.
I'm guessing they don't delam the second you flex them. SUPPOSEDLY the edge hold is good, but I would expect the from the fischer.
although the Mantra's a harder charger than the ARV, though, no?
I DO seem to like the armada's, maybe I'll even give that new fangled tip-in-the-back-idea some use this year, since the snow is softer out here.No longer stuck.
09-19-2007, 10:10 PM #19
You want a fat short ski. The pow pluses are gonna be alot to handle. Yer coming from hunter, so bridger is gonna be steep and TIGHT. You'll definintely want to make some turns until you dial in the lines and where to point em.
Go with something like a gotama, and use them everyday.Drive slow, homie.
09-19-2007, 10:41 PM #20
1 pair of fatties for powder
1 pair of rock skis
1 AT setup(naxos, fritchis, dukes) maybe with your downhill boots-trekkers work fine but there is a lot of bc and out the gates skiing and you'll tire of them quickly. These skis will get beat up quickly especially preseason.
1 pair (good edges)for hardpack and windfucked, and when the avi danger is too high to go bc.
Or for a 1 ski quiver:
1 midfat>fat AT setup
Or just ski your demo skis all winter until you find what you like.
I'll be on big troubles mostly on the ridge, scratch bc's (fritchis) for shorter tours, legend xxl's for powder days, karmas for trashing and dynastar 8000's with dynafits for when I go bc with the fast guys.
09-20-2007, 09:29 AM #21
Honestly, save up your money this winter and buy a pair of Iggies - probably an FFL or maybe even FFGS or FFC depending on how much sidecut/hard snow performance you want.
I think an FFGS would be a great middle-of-the-road do-everything ski here.
A good ski in MT is like a good girlfriend - one that can take a hit and dish it right backOriginally Posted by BSS
09-20-2007, 11:40 AM #22
If you plan on skiing both Lone Peak, and Bridger, you are going to need two different everyday skis, maybe two distinctly different quivers. Lone Peak, especially big sky, is all about wide open high speed stuff that has a lot of good runouts that you can just point it into. Bridger is pretty much the opposite. For a BS/MLB everyday ski, my biggest priority is stability at speed. For a Bridger ski, I really want something thats easy to throw around and turn in the super tight stuff.
Like I said, I think you should work on the beginnings of a quiver. If I were you, I would try to "adopt" a pair of demos to use as your everyday skis for Bridger (maybe ARVs?), and maybe buy something bigger and burlier (whatever you define that as) for a Lone Peak everyday ski.
Then think about getting some true powder skis, or an AT setup.
09-20-2007, 12:35 PM #23
I dunno. I rocked a set of FFLs as my everyday sticks for awhile at Bridger and Big Sky. But I could make 'em turn, throwing skis around isn't something I've ever had much problem with. Anyway I was equally at home maching the Bowl at BS or dropping in Hidden...mine were 190s and they were fine.
Dunno, it's up to you.Originally Posted by BSS
09-20-2007, 02:42 PM #24
yo Stuck, my everyday ski is a gotama (like many others up here it seems) and Blowers from the demo rack for the big days. Igneous options sound great if you are loaded. but if you work at round house you are probly not loaded, so use that demo rack till you really know what works for ya.
P.S.- rode the P4's when Scott came up, and really liked em. A proform from scott is very affordable
09-20-2007, 03:51 PM #25
hmm, you all make some very interesting points.
I'm gonna see if I can order some MantrasNo longer stuck.
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