bluehouse skis - $250

**pechelman** · 08-02-2007, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by Shane@Bluehouse

In response to questions above:

Our payment system accepts all major credit cards.

The sale will start at 12:00 AM, Sept. 1.

We've thought of the flipping problem. We'll be limiting purchases for each consumer (2 or 3 total).

Shipping will be added to the $250 sale price and over-seas shipping will be a possibility (but OS will be steep). I don't have an exact figure on shipping costs yet, we're still negotiating what's best for consumers. I'll update when we know.

With that in mind, buyers will have the option to avoid shipping by choosing a pick-up option. We're scheduling a pick-up day in SLC shortly after the 14th. We're stoked for this as it will give us a chance to meet our ski owners.

In response to the DISTRICT's stiffness and feel; It's really hard to compare them to other skis because the feel of a bamboo core is unique. However, if we had to choose a ski for comparison, we'd go with the Gotamas. What you'll get from the bamboo is massive pop at the launch and cushy dampening at the stomp. They handle high speeds well too. The DISTRICTs weigh 8 lbs.

We appreciate everyone's support. You're all right when you say we're doing this one for the skier. Tromano nailed it, we believe the skis will sell themselves. This pre-season blowout simply sets that in motion.

BTW, we'll be relying on the feedback of our ski owners to design our 2008 lineup. BH believes designing skis is a community effort.

Shane

I think I speak for everyone when I say we really appreciate you coming over to our little corner of the interweb and telling us about your skis.

I do however have a couple more questions if you dont mind.
How much camber do the skis have when placed in their free state base-to-base?
How big are the tips and tails? (ie rise and length of rise)

Thanks!

**couloir** · 08-02-2007, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by Shane@Bluehouse

In response to the DISTRICT's stiffness and feel; It's really hard to compare them to other skis because the feel of a bamboo core is unique. However, if we had to choose a ski for comparison, we'd go with the Gotamas. What you'll get from the bamboo is massive pop at the launch and cushy dampening at the stomp. They handle high speeds well too. The DISTRICTs weigh 8 lbs.

what about comparison with kingswoods which also have a bamboo core?

**pechelman** · 08-02-2007, 11:17 AM

fyi, the kingswood regular flex is\was also described as a 04\05 or 05\06 gotama flex. (ie the black topsheet versions)

**mcsquared** · 08-02-2007, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by pechelman

I do however have a couple more questions if you dont mind.
How much camber do the skis have when placed in their free state base-to-base?
How big are the tips and tails? (ie rise and length of rise)

Thanks!

According to the website:
Tip/Tail Height: 50/25mm
Running Length: 1660mm

I have no concept on what the running length numbers mean when trying to decide if they ski "long" or "short" Anybody know the running length on the 189cm Made'n?

**lax** · 08-02-2007, 12:18 PM

187 goats for $250....tough decision

**squirrelmurphy** · 08-02-2007, 01:08 PM

wont be tough for me...

**keksie** · 08-02-2007, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by StroupSkier

In an email exchange today Jared @ BH skis told me they have about the same flex as a Goat and weigh 8lbs.

so. 8lbs per pair? how accurate is that? that would be 3,63kg per pair which would be uh, light i guess.. compared to other skis with approx. same dimensions in the ski weight thread.. nearly 1kg lighter than the 190 gotama..

**Doremite** · 08-02-2007, 01:41 PM

Must resist "unnecessary" quiver addition

**Bluehouse** · 08-02-2007, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by keksie

so. 8lbs per pair? how accurate is that? that would be 3,63kg per pair which would be uh, light i guess.. compared to other skis with approx. same dimensions in the ski weight thread.. nearly 1kg lighter than the 190 gotama..

Just want to clarify that we have not weighed these on any kind of highly accurate scale, but they are probably at least 1.5 lbs lighter than Gots. I would say the weight range would be between 8 lbs and 9lbs to be safe and not mislead.

**pechelman** · 08-02-2007, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by mcsquared

According to the website:
Tip/Tail Height: 50/25mm
Running Length: 1660mm

I have no concept on what the running length numbers mean when trying to decide if they ski "long" or "short" Anybody know the running length on the 189cm Made'n?

yea i saw the height, but i was also asking about the length of the tips.
im not going to assume the tail length is the same as the tip length, especially since its half the height.

im primarially asking though because of camber.

edit, and if i remember correctly, a 179 bro has a running length\effective edge of about 160cm.

**Altaholic** · 08-02-2007, 02:44 PM

I'm in for buying these skis and my buddies who don't post here are stoked to get the heads up

**Altaholic** · 08-02-2007, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by Doremite

Must resist "unnecessary" quiver addition

I feel the same way (I have Ants & new warrenteed '08 193 Blowers), but this is a price that you can't pass up. Put some P 18s on those skis & they'll rule. $250 is a super duper steal, so I don't feel so bad buying, $400 would make me think a little bit more, if I don't need another pair of skis I can sell my ANTs, but I'll wait on that.

**StroupSkier** · 08-02-2007, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by keksie

so. 8lbs per pair? how accurate is that? that would be 3,63kg per pair which would be uh, light i guess.. compared to other skis with approx. same dimensions in the ski weight thread.. nearly 1kg lighter than the 190 gotama..

My mid-fat Kingswoods check in at 4.2kg or about 9.5 pound per pair.

Bamboo is light because it is not a tree, but actually a grass. Since it has no bark it uses a system of chutes to move water around in the plant. Despite this, it test better in sheer test than most hardwoods and has a higher tensile strength than steel.

8 to 9 punds is not an outrageous claim considering the weigth of other bamboo skis. They do not have the carbon fiber layers like the KWs have ans are ever so slightly skinnier. Weight sounds about right to me.

**SorryBro** · 08-02-2007, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by StroupSkier

Despite this, it test better in sheer test than most hardwoods and has a higher tensile strength than steel.

The inner engineering nerd in me has to disagree with you there. The ultimate tensile strength of steel is around 58,000 psi (for A36 steel, the weakest kind). I couldn't find any research that put bamboo any higher than 45,000 psi (and that was the high end).

Regardless, I'm in for the sale. See you all at midnight.

**GBB** · 08-02-2007, 03:23 PM

Why do people keep saying this is a 187 Goat. That is NOT what I need to hear.

We'll see what happens on 9/1.....

**Raps** · 08-02-2007, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by givebackbloom

Why do people keep saying this is a 187 Goat. That is NOT what I need to hear.

We'll see what happens on 9/1.....

yeah seriously - i know i'm gonna buckle and do it - i have 176 goats that are short but i got em for a good deal........this is sounding good........buy these, throw my p14s on them and then put AT bindings on my old goats perhaps......hmmmmmm

**anthill** · 08-02-2007, 03:33 PM

Looks like there's no metal in the Districts?

**lookinback** · 08-02-2007, 03:55 PM

I might be game for this....the only thing that is holding me back is that the skis are pressed in the same place liberty skis are, and I have first hand seen liberty skis delam after a few weeks... Can you tell me if the skis actual construction is more stable than liberty's design? Im not hating, just curious to the potential durability.

**orlowskij** · 08-02-2007, 04:17 PM

Can't wait till we start hearing some reviews from guys who have skied these. It's time to start building my quiver for the move out of PA, pretty sure a pair of 187s will be in it.

**Mach Looney** · 08-02-2007, 04:50 PM

I was all set to spend $700 on the new Gotama's, but now it looks like that plan's in the tank. For $250, why not?

**lax** · 08-02-2007, 06:24 PM

holy chit mach looney you have my gaper jacket!!!!

**Bluehouse** · 08-02-2007, 09:49 PM

Both Jared and Shane have been trying to keep up with the questions and I thought I should jump in too.

We will be posting some pictures and videos of the skis soon (hopefully in the next week) so everyone can see a little better what they look like.

We are also starting to think about next season's designs and since we rely on feedback from the community let us know what you want in a ski. Either on this forum or PM us or email or whatever. We will be demoing our current skis this season as well as testing next years models as often as we can and we want all types of riders to give us feedback before we finalize any designs.

We want to make the skis that you guys will ride so let us know.

Squatch · 08-02-2007, 10:12 PM

Serious questions: why should I buy your skis?

Right now, you could say that it's because they're $250. Which is a great deal (and I'm desperately trying to get my smaller-than-me roommate on some)*, but not a sustainable business model.

I do like the dimensions, and the posted weight, although sometimes you can make a ski too light. However, at $850 there are cheaper options that are similar (the gotama comes to mind), not to mention by established and respected companies.

I guess what I'm saying is find a niche and fill it. Look at other successful small ski manufacturers. DP does a lot of "Fun Shapes," and I'd be willing to bet that their company's success is dependent on them being innovative with the Lotus 120/138. Praxis decided to make a better spat, for cheap (at least the $400 deal). The list goes on--and it also includes small ski companies that aren't doing so well (does fattypus still make skis?).

*So I can try them out.

**Blurred** · 08-02-2007, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by Squatch

Serious questions: why should I buy your skis?

Right now, you could say that it's because they're $250. Which is a great deal (and I'm desperately trying to get my smaller-than-me roommate on some)*, but not a sustainable business model.

If they have a product that they have total confidence in, then their business plan is pure genius.

If the ski performs, they'll have 500 people marketing it, and they basically got their marketing for free.

Very smart.

Squatch · 08-02-2007, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by BlurredElevens

If they have a product that they have total confidence in, then their business plan is pure genius.

If the ski performs, they'll have 500 people marketing it, and they basically got their marketing for free.

Very smart.

I don't think you would buy any ski for $850, regardless of the marketing. Unless possibly a DP or something else that's special/unique. And I'm willing to bet that, even if you bought a DP, it was a cosmetic blem and you didn't pay full price, because I know you, and I know you don't like paying much for skis.

The type of crowd that buys gotama like skis for 850 shops in ski shops, too. And then you have to have dealer arrangements and the like, and you'll cut into your profit a lot. If they're shopping on the internet, they're probably buying XXLs off SAC , or getting some ninthwards.

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