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07-14-2007, 09:06 PM #1
Why is my fly line sinking? (JONGish question)
I am new to this fly fishing thing, and I'm trying to figure out why the first foot or so of my supposedly floating flyline is sinking. I cleaned it with cortland dressing last night, and I used the little circular wipes that are supposed to clean and dress the line while on the water.
Still sinks.
What am I doing wrong?
It is 5 wt, weight forward long belly from Royal Wulff. I use a piece of orvis 40 lb. test mono with a perfection loop on the end (about 6") and just attach wahtever leader I need with a loop-loop connection. If it matters, The leader always sinks first, and seems to drag the fly-line down with it.
Any insight would be much appreciated. Oh and the line is new last month with maybe 10 days fishing on it.Looking California, feeling Minnesota.
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07-14-2007, 09:11 PM #2
Nothing. This has been a problem for years. Rio came out with a line that has more hollow spots in the tip to prevent this and seems to help, but still isn’t perfect. My only advice is to cut it off.
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07-15-2007, 10:12 AM #3
Loop-loop connector is the problem. Leave that yuppie crap to the Orvis/Eddie Bauer crowd.
The connector snags current a lot easier than a simple knotted smooth transition between line & leader. It gets pulled under more easily. It causes lousy fly drifts.
Ditch it.
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07-15-2007, 10:14 AM #4
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07-15-2007, 10:29 AM #5
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07-16-2007, 11:15 AM #6
Cut of about 2-3" of line at the end. When you retie the leader (as suggested above), seal the end of your flyline with a drop of crazy glue.
Quite often that open section of flyline gets water logged, dragging down the floating line.
LThis is the worst pain EVER!
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07-16-2007, 11:36 AM #7
I have had good luck with the Cortland Western Drift Line WF5wt.
The first 4ft of the line has a higher bouncy than the body. It sinks but only when I'm using a large streamer or deceiver on the lake.Since then it's been a book you read in reverse, so you understand less as the pages turn.
The things you find on the net.
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07-16-2007, 11:38 AM #8
i have a loop to loop and my line floats fine.
i do put a drop of zap a gap on the nail knot between fly line and loop, so maybe it is what Lonnie is saying. i also use Amnesia 20# leader butt material, so maybe the lighter mono is making a difference?"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Ben Franklin
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07-16-2007, 02:56 PM #9
Not that I have to worry about this in Saltwater, but what type of knot would you use in this situation? I currently use a nail knot at the end of my fly line, since I switch out my leaders a bit more than most of you. I find it easier to have several pre-tied tippet/leader sections that I can loop up really quickly.
Depends on what I am targeting, but it makes life a little simpler. It is not unheard of to go through 3 or 4 sections of 30 lb leader in one outing
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07-16-2007, 03:01 PM #10
i use a nail knot to tie the leader butt to the fly line, then a perfection loop in the end of the leader butt. i try to have 3-4" of leader butt. i like the amnesia because you can get it in colors. chartruse or red, it kind of works like a strike indicator.
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Ben Franklin
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07-16-2007, 05:01 PM #11
since i started fly fishing in salt waters, i was taught to make an eye of the fly line by making a bight and putting 2 nail knots to secure it. put whatever glue or sealant you like on your knots. just make sure the loop in the bight is large enough to pass the loop-to-loop knots on your leaders.
pm me if that doesnt make sense
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07-16-2007, 06:00 PM #12
For the ultimate connection click here:
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I have never had one fail or break.
Edit 4 - This is REALLY handy when you are stillwater fishing in deep water. Slides through the eyez nice.Last edited by Pow4Brains; 07-16-2007 at 06:03 PM.
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"once i let go of my material desires many opportunities for playing with the planet emerge. emerge - to come into being through evolution. ok back to work - i gotta pack." - Slaag Master
"As for Flock of Seagulls, everytime that song comes up on my ipod, I turn it up- way up." - goldenboy
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