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03-10-2007, 03:54 AM #1Registered User
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Best "dryland" preparation for surf noob?
OK guys, edumacate me!
Here is the deal :
I'll be spending one month in Indonesia next summer, and I want to learn surfing while there.
Since I'm not a skilled athlete (slow learner) I'd like to be as well prepared as possible before that.
problem, I live in Switzerland where surfing is a bit...problematic (no ocean).
What could I do in advance to be somewhat ready when I'll be in Indonesia?
I already ski and tele.
Should I pick up snowboarding?
Windsurfing? (we have pretty big lakes here)
re-watch "Point Break"?
Balance drills like unicycle or slacklining?
Surf games on the playstation?
Any advice welcome!
03-10-2007, 07:44 AM #2
swimming, skateboarding and watching north shorefine
03-11-2007, 01:07 AM #3
Swimming and boxing work pretty well for me
03-11-2007, 01:08 PM #4If you had a nickel for every nickel he has, you would have a lot of fuckin' nickels!
03-13-2007, 03:07 PM #5
lots of swimming. otherwise you become tired easily and sore and that is really not any fun. As fara as balance, if you are somewhat of a athlete (you can ski/snowboard/skateboard) the balancing on a board should be no problem. you will have fun, just be prepared to move to the beach after your summer is over.....
03-13-2007, 07:28 PM #6
One month? You're not going to learn to surf, you're going to learn how get the shit beat out of you and just how much your nose can run. Not trying to discourage you in any way, that's just how it is. I'm a pretty good athlete and it took me a year of going 2-4 times/week to just barely not completely suck. If you stick to tiny waves on a big ass longboard you'll probably catch some rides though, which is OK because small waves really are fun.
edit: this is DTMyou sketchy character, you
03-13-2007, 11:51 PM #7Registered User
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You could actually look into river-surfing in the Swiss area. If you can hook up with a local club, I actually believe there are some spots in Switzerland, that would be great training and practice. You'll get your ass kicked there too but its something. There are a few people around here (Calgary, Alberta) that have never surfed in the ocean before but are dilligent in the river and have developed their balance and strength. Otherwise swimming is the best thing you can do. START NOW!!
03-14-2007, 04:22 AM #8
[QUOTE=mtglider;1179237] As fara as balance, if you are somewhat of a athlete (you can ski/snowboard/skateboard) the balancing on a board should be no problem. QUOTE]
Errr? I call BS on this claim. "no problem"? Being an athlete in similar sports will help, but nothing mitigates the issue of standing on a board, on water, to the stage where it is "no problem" for a beginner. Jong.
Get out there, expect to have fun, expect to get cleaned up on a regular basis, don't expect to be a pro from the start, and enjoy the sinus washout afterwards.
Last edited by Shorey; 03-14-2007 at 04:27 AM.Not around much these days.
03-14-2007, 04:53 AM #9
some info: http://mypage.bluewin.ch/a-z/riversurf/index.htm
otherwise, i highly recommend snowboarding as crosstraining for surfing. i've surfed for over 20 years and since snowboarding, my surfing has improved dramatically. i get better at surfing each year and i only go for one or two weeks now.
where are you located in Switz?
03-14-2007, 05:01 AM #10
In addition to all the cardio and upper body training, you should do at least 20 surf pop-ups a day (ideally more).
Number one problem learning to surf is having a consistent and quick popup.
Find some tips on a surf website - there are videos out there to show how its done right.
But DO IT!!!
PS - I am a surf jong, but know that a solid popup was the hardest thing to get, and dry land popup training really helped since it gives you muscle memory for when you actually get on the water.
PPS - Swiming is probably best training. Surfers are really "paddlers" - as a jong, you will do even more paddling than a real surfer.
PPS - balance board training might help you improve your balance."Fakers are Maggots" - T. Hall, 2011
only a fake Rasta could make a claim like that
03-14-2007, 11:00 AM #11
By "no problem" I meant that he should be able to stand and get the hang of it in a rather short period of time. Skating and Snowboarding use the same movements and similar balance. If you are use to those types of sports, than picking up surfing would definitely be easier.
I am not an athlete and I was able to pickup surfing over a summer. I still suck, but I have just as much fun as the next guy. And isn't that what it is all about?On a private beach in Michigan
03-14-2007, 01:57 PM #12Registered User
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buy some coral reef at the local petstore - enough to cover your floor. Belly flop onto the coral daily to simulate learning in IndoElvis has left the building
03-14-2007, 07:14 PM #13fine
03-15-2007, 03:30 AM #14Registered User
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Thanks a lot for all the replies.Didn't think about the importance of swimming, but it makes a lot of sense.
A few more jongish questions :
what is a popup? I take it it's the standing up motion that gets you from on your belly to on your feet? I remember Kanu practicing that on the beach in "point break" (yes I'm an über-Jong!)
Is Indo somewhat an "advanced" spot? can you give me a quick crash course on best spots for beginners here? We'll spend some time in Ujung Padang/Makassar (on Sulawesi Island) for sure, rest of the stay is open to suggestions. where to go?
Rips : I'm from the Martigny region, but live in Neuchatel now.
cj001f : who's the chick in your avatar? Gorgeous...
altachic : thanks for the reality check what does DTM means?
I just found out Nicolas Hale-Wood (organizer of the Verbier extreme) is also president of the Swiss Water Surfing Federation...so perhaps there are some landlocked surfers around here? I'll look into that.
Will windsurfing bring bad habits? is it better than nothing?
03-15-2007, 08:56 AM #15
Read Core-Shots reply again - it says check out hints on surfing web-sites.
Actually, do a search on here, read the Stormrider Guide and use the internet which extends just outside the bounds of TGR - but only just. If you do this you will achieve two things:
1) Answer your questions.
2) Not annoy people around here.Not around much these days.
03-15-2007, 09:01 AM #16
indo - surely you'll be able to find some mellow waves on the mainland. it is known for it's boat trips to offshore reef breaks.
i have the perfect board for indo reef waves that i'll sell for cheap. if you are interested, PM me.
windsurfing? it won't really help except maybe with the balance effort a little bit.
03-15-2007, 01:05 PM #17Registered User
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I was in Hawaii for ~2 weeks last summer and the only surfing I'd done before that was 2 1-hr surf lessons spread over 4 years. I took another 1-hr lesson the first day, then did about 4-5 more sessions over the next 10 days. These were actually pretty depressing, as I was having lots of trouble actually catching a wave. The standing-up part was a piece of cake.
Then I went over to another island, thought I'd give it one more go, and rented something closer to a real longboard - still had a soft top, but most of the board was glass (the first one was all soft, just a plastic sheet on the bottom, that they use in the beginner classes). That was it, after about 30 minutes fooling around trying to figure out where I needed to be on the board - and several exciting nose dives - I was catching waves left and right. No problems at all, got around to starting to actually turn (intentionally!) and such. Great fun. It wasn't the North Shore, but the good waves were probably a solid 4-5 feet.
Moving to a shortboard, that I don't know about. From what I've read, for only a month, probably stick to the longboard for most of that. You'll have fun regardless.
03-15-2007, 01:45 PM #18
1. Born and raised in the mountains, I suck at the ocean.
2. Bought a fairly short board (7').
3. Learning how to read the waves. If I had a dollar for every wave that passed me by (or pitched me onto my face because I took off too late)....
4. Summer waves in CA are meh. There were a couple of days with really nice waves where I did pretty good and got some nice long rides and started to get a feel for how to work a wave and use it to generate speed. But most of the time it was mushy sectiony junk.
edit: Our trip to Sayulita in two weeks will be surf-less thanks to my thumb, yipee
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03-16-2007, 02:10 PM #21
ride (standing) a cafeteria tray down some stairs
03-16-2007, 06:32 PM #22Registered User
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Surfing is the hardest thing I've ever learned to do - EVER! On my 1'st or second day a kind soul told me that I would fall down about 200 times before I made a decent bottom turn - that estimate was right on the money. It took me about 2 solid weeks, about 2 hours a day. Surfing can't be "taught", it must be learned - the hard way. Snowboarding, skating, skiing...all child's play by comparison. Not trying to scare you off, just saying that if you fail to commit to it you will not learn, it's as simple as that. Good news is you'll be in Indo where the water is warm, the women are scantily clad, and the beer will be cold - you'll have a blast regardless!
03-17-2007, 08:18 AM #23
As for the original guys question, yeah, swimming training, popups, whatever may make everything a bit easier but nothing is going make a huge difference. Its going to be hard and its going to be frustrating. Its like skiing, if someone had never skiied before, all the leg exercises in the world wouldn't prepare them for the bunny slope. Its just experience and practice.
03-19-2007, 12:14 PM #24Registered User
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03-20-2007, 12:24 PM #25
Please pardon my kookness, but I've never understood the "measure the back of the unbroken wave" thing. Hawaiian style, right? I'm sure they must have had some reasoning back in the day, but when you're riding the face of the wave it seems more applicable to measure the face, XXL style.
Everest is only 11,000ish "Nepali style" (from basecamp) but we give it the full 29,035"
Please educate me. Is it just tradition and modesty or is there more?Putting the "core" in corporate, one turn at a time.
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