Thread: The Official Ski Weight Thread
02-12-2007, 11:14 AM #26
02-12-2007, 11:28 AM #27
nope definately a heel shim, I was worried that I'd manage to torque the toepiece out while skinning if I removed the toe shim, so I put a small shim under the heel and used longer screws, it accomplished the same result as removing the toe shim. Only problem is the heel might be a tiny bit sloppier but I never noticed it with AT boots. Now that I've switched back to an Alpine boot that has a wedge under the heel inside the boot, I really didn't need the shim anymore so I took it off.
Hope that helps
oh yeah and nice work with the list!For sure, you have to be lost to find a place that can't be found, elseways everyone would know where it was
02-12-2007, 11:36 AM #28
02-12-2007, 11:48 AM #29
OK. weighted a few of my skis:
2003/04 St÷ckli Stormrider DP
186 cm; 123/91/111 mm; radius on ski 26,3 m; 4428 grams
2005/06/07 Karhu Jak BC
186 cm; 124/90/113 mm; 3616 grams
V÷lkl Explosiv (Maroon Buddha)
190 cm; 120/95/112 mm; 4236 grams
Though all skis are drilled and somewhat used, so new skis will most likely be somewhat heavier (espicially the DP).
And Sticky, PLEASE!!!Originally Posted by RootSkier
02-12-2007, 01:12 PM #30
Sending you an email to the address you listed. This is the spread sheet I have put together. maybe you can pull some useful info and add to yours.
And how about a sticky!
02-12-2007, 03:27 PM #31custom user title?
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head monster im103 pro - 5700g at 193cm
v÷lkl gotama 04/05 - 4600g at 190cm
k2 seth vicious - 4900g at 179cm
salomon ak rocket swallowtail 05/06 - 4800g ski
salomon pocketrocket (the first one) - 4100g 185cm
v÷lkl explosiv (i forgot which one) - 4100g at 180cm
k2 fujative 05/06 - 3600g at 169cm
volant sptula - 5900g
02-12-2007, 05:19 PM #32
02-16-2007, 12:20 PM #33
bump for a sticky?For sure, you have to be lost to find a place that can't be found, elseways everyone would know where it was
02-17-2007, 08:53 PM #34
addition to the bindings list
Silvretta 300 1660g pairFor sure, you have to be lost to find a place that can't be found, elseways everyone would know where it was
02-20-2007, 02:51 PM #35
Armada JP vs. Julien from last season in 188 cm (I think, both for specs and year) 126/103/116 mm.
A pair weights 3723 grams, provided a pair of Salomon S912 TI weights 1980 grams.
And bump for sticky...Originally Posted by RootSkier
03-01-2007, 04:42 PM #36
bump cause i updated the charts with some more stuff
and I bought a scale at office depot so now Im dangerous
03-01-2007, 05:00 PM #37
Can we get a sticky on this please? I look at this all too often.==================
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03-01-2007, 07:55 PM #38
pair of freeride toe shims weigh 76 g
freeride without toe shim = 1976 g
and can we sticky this bitch yet
03-08-2007, 05:43 PM #39
03-08-2007, 10:25 PM #40
^^^what he said
Exactly the info I've been lookin for.....thanks
03-09-2007, 09:48 AM #41Registered User
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A couple more:
Volkl CMH Explosiv 180cm w/Freerides/Brakes 6300g
skis only 6300-2088=4212g
Dynafit D812 180cm 111-72-101 w/ Comforts 3600g
skis only 3600-850=2750g
Dynafit FR10 168cm w/Comforts 3550g 112-88-108
skis only 3550-850=2700g
Anyone with a weight for Atomic Snoop Daddy/Kailas?
Nice work. And my wife thinks I'm a geek.
03-13-2007, 12:54 PM #42
I am definitely putting together a backcountry rig...
'03 Atomic Big Daddies+ mounting plates+ alpine trekkers+ Lange plug boots= 35+ Lbs of baddness up, but goodness on the way down.
I'm also getting in great shape lugging all that crap (grin).
03-14-2007, 10:02 PM #43Registered User
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Nice list, however I think there is a problem with the base area.
they look to all be around 20 cm^2...that cannot be right. Take a 100 mm waist, 180 cm ski. Completely ignoring the extra area on the tips and tails, that is 10 cm * 180 cm = 1800 cm^2. Did I miss something about the measurement?
03-14-2007, 10:44 PM #44
The calcs are off by a factor of 100. But since its all relative - no big deal.
03-16-2007, 04:57 AM #45
Fischer atua 186 cm. 129-96-119
2040 g one ski
2090 g the other
4130 g the pair.
03-16-2007, 09:21 AM #46
03-17-2007, 09:25 AM #47Registered User
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I've been thinking of posting this for a while, now I had some spare time so I printsc'd my excel spreadsheets of ski geometry.
All numbers are measurements of one ski.
I'll explain the norwegian if there is something you don't understand:
Modell= name of ski
kr lgd=length without tips (running length)
bt lgd=back tip length
ft lgd=front tiplength
f ski=front ski length
b ski=back ski length
%=percent mounting point
tot%=percent with tips
bak=reference width back ski
midt=width mid ski
fram=reference width front ski
tupp=widest tip width
R=meters turning radius
bt ar=back tip area
kr ar=runing length area
ft ar=front tip area
tot ar=total area
bt=back tip height
ft=front tip height
bak=thickness thinnest at back
midt=thickness thickest middle
fram=thickness thinnest front
gr=weight (of one ski)
gr/cm²=weight/total base area
bc jib skis:
Last edited by endre; 03-17-2007 at 11:03 AM.
03-17-2007, 04:26 PM #48
that is one impressive spread sheet
how did you calculate your areas?
is your camber measurement of just one ski on a flat surface or base to base?
03-18-2007, 07:07 AM #49Registered User
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the camber is one ski towards a flat surface.
the area of the ski is the rectangle-the two circle segments+the area of the tips. i use different formulas for the tips, according to shape. as you can see in the spreadsheet I add and subtract a bit to compensate for unusual shapes.
03-18-2007, 10:45 AM #50
thanks for the sticky
can we do it with the AT boot flex index as well?
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