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Thread: Dual Layer dvd burners
03-26-2006, 02:10 PM #1
Dual Layer dvd burners
Anybody using one of these? Any info, advice, pros, cons etc. appreciated. Right now I'm looking at external.
03-26-2006, 02:24 PM #2Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople
also, why would you get an external burner? get an internal and if you ever need it to be external you can buy a usb enclosure, this is a small box that you can slide your internal dvd player into and it becomes an external drive that you can connect to any computer with a simple usb or firewire cable.. an enclosure can make any internal drive an external drive, including hard drives.
03-26-2006, 05:04 PM #3
ditto on the dual layer not really being worth it. It's nice to have the capability, but the only dl discs i ever burned were when i'd just got the replacement burner put in my powerbook (my old optical drive died outright) and was still geeked up on just being able to. I can't tell the difference in quality between a 4gb movie and a 7 or 8 gb movie, and if I need more than 4gb of storage space an external drive makes more sense.
ditto again on the internal.
03-26-2006, 09:20 PM #4
Sorry, I sort of disagree with the two mags above. Mainly, because I have a laptop and that's why I needed an external drive (I bought a single layer NEC about two year ago, and it works great). I'm guessing that's why you are looking at external drives yourself. Also, quite a few movies don't fit on one single layer disk without losing some quality, even when using dvdshrink and stripping off menus/extras. I can tell the difference in quality between 75% or lower compression compared to the full quality, so I've been using dvdshrink to split the movies over two disks... Pain in the ass, I know, but that's the way it was for awhile when you couldn't burn dual, so I just got used to it.
Now, I think that dl drives can still burn single layer media, but don't quote me on it. If that's the case, you can buy a spindle of sl for < 30 cents/piece and a few dl disks for $2.50 and you are pretty much set for any movie you want to burn. Even if you don't plan to burn movies, buy a dual layer drive and use single layer disks until dual becomes cheap, because you know it will eventually.
I believe that most external drives are just regular internal drives with a USB enclosures on them anyways. I can take mine apart and stick it into any desktop like any other internal drive, all I would need is an IDE cable to connect to the motherboard. The external drives are more expensive, but if you buy a USB enclosure separately later on, it would probably cost you more than just buying an external drive to start with.
DON'T buy the cheapest blank media, your burns will fail alot more often and you won't save any money in the long run.
My somewhat long and ranting $0.02.“Don’t want to sound like a dick or nothing but it says on your chart you’re fucked up. You talk like a fag, and your shit’s all retarded.”
03-26-2006, 09:33 PM #5
Most dl drives, afaik, will burn single layer too (at least mine does). I sprung a little extra for the dl, and I don't regret it. It just hasn't been that big a boon to me to have the capability.
Toast Titanium does all the shrinking for me. Works well. I can sometimes notice the compression, especially looking at moving gradients of solid colors... What I SHOULD have said was that I've never had it bother me in the least.
From the little bit of minor shopping I've done (and it has been MINOR), I found that getting an internal drive and then getting a cheap enclosure is cheaper than getting the whole kit put together. I could be way off base. Probably am.
03-26-2006, 09:59 PM #6Originally Posted by Infantile Egomaniac
03-27-2006, 05:27 PM #7
Good info. Thanks to all participants.
03-27-2006, 06:06 PM #8
The cost of dual layer discs does not justify the end results.
Hell if you're gonna use DL discs you might as well just have netflix so you can watch the same movie over and over if you're astute enough to notice the difference.
Only thing I use DL's for is my monthly "important shit" backups.
Also had great luck with both the Pioneer drives and the HP lightscribe drives.
TDK media also works in just about everything (make sure origin of manufacturing is either china or japan... NOT taiwan.)
03-27-2006, 06:48 PM #9Originally Posted by focus
I've gone to USB drives for backups and stuff because it's less hassle than buring disks.If you have a problem & think that someone else is going to solve it for you then you have two problems.
03-27-2006, 07:50 PM #10
03-27-2006, 07:59 PM #11Originally Posted by Snow Dog
03-27-2006, 09:12 PM #12Originally Posted by wanghoebyIf you have a problem & think that someone else is going to solve it for you then you have two problems.