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    Scarpa Denali TT vs. Tornado

    Tornado is supposedly stiffer. Is the Denali TT stiff "enough" ? (for fat skis w/ Freerides) Anyone tried both? Any comparisons?

    I picked up the Tornados earlier this week, now SAC has the Denali TT -- a more walkable sole... get the Denali, return the Tornado? Or keep the Tornado?
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    search much?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lemon boy
    search much?
    Yep. Not much there.

    Tornado = walkable alpine boot.
    Denali TT = supposedly pretty damn stiff as far as an AT boot goes. But how stiff?

    Comparison between the two? Nada.
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    Ummm not as stiff as a tornado.

    To perspectivize for you:

    Pre tornado (and arguably some of the garmont boots?) the TT was king of the downhill oriented AT boots.

    If your goals are more performance oriented pow-country winter touring + sidecountry = tornado
    If your goals include a significant amount of springtime chuting and hiking plus pow and sidecountry = TT

    just one telemarkers opinion.
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    Doing more searching...

    Says Denali TT not as stiff as Garmont's Adrenalin:
    http://tetongravity.com/forums/showp...5&postcount=14

    Says Xwave 10s stiffer unbuckled than Denalis buckled (I used to have Crossmax 10s, same as Xwave 10, so this comparison is useful to me):
    http://tetongravity.com/forums/showp...28&postcount=1
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    aaah, crap. Can't decide.

    Ordered the same size (27.5) in the Denali TT, will check them out side by side at home, and return one of them.
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    that was the correct answer all along.
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    The Tornado is more of a resort boot. The sole is flat so walking is clunky but it's also narrow so climbing on a sidehill is sketchy compared to Adrenalin or Denali.

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    As it was pointed out to me in another similiar thread, if I already have a perfectly good alpine boot, why buy the Tornado? So I went with Denali because of it's rocker sole, vibram sole etc. FWIW, the boots fit differenty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by assgasorgrass
    As it was pointed out to me in another similiar thread, if I already have a perfectly good alpine boot, why buy the Tornado? So I went with Denali because of it's rocker sole, vibram sole etc. FWIW, the boots fit differenty.
    Care to elaborate on the difference in fit?
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    Well, for me, the Tornado had a different fit in the heel and had a little more room in the toe box. The 29 Tornado has a boot sole length of 324mm. The 29 Denali has a bsl of 321mm. My salomon x-waves are 325mm.

    The Tornado seemed to have a different flex pattern than the Denali, it is very smooth, not abrubt as I found the Garmonts to be. The Denali flex pattern is smooth as well, but different than the Tornado. Not a bad different, just felt different, especially at the deepest part of the flex. (Does that even make sense?).

    Overall, I liked the fit of both, but was definitely between sizes in the Tornado, as I knew the 29s would pack out too much and require a pretty substantial footbed, the 28.0 would leave me with black toe. I found the Denali to fit well out of the box but with different pressure points in the lower shin\overlap\tongue area. The Denali felt better in the heel area and was nice and snug, but not too snug, in the toe box.

    Again, this all in relationship to my feet, my height and weight etc. Hope this helps.

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    Thanks -- I guess I'll see which fits better. The 27.5 Tornado I have has a boot sole of 316mm; I guess the 27.5 Denali TT should be a bit shorter. If it's snugger in the heel pocket, that will clinch it for me -- I have narrow heels and that's the hardest part of the boot for me to fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Chupacabra
    Thanks -- I guess I'll see which fits better. The 27.5 Tornado I have has a boot sole of 316mm; I guess the 27.5 Denali TT should be a bit shorter. If it's snugger in the heel pocket, that will clinch it for me -- I have narrow heels and that's the hardest part of the boot for me to fit.
    I have the same problem with my heels. I had a boot fitter add some foam to the front of the liner on my TTs and the fit has been great all season. The foam sits right under the buckle that goes across the ankle and does a good job of keeping the heel back in the heel pocket.

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    El, I did the same thing today. pulled the trigger on the tornados on sunday and then did the same thing today with the denali's. it will only cost you $10 to find out, was my logic. and the fact that new boot might inspire me to ski east coast ice.

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