Thread: Salomon 916 heel slop??

I bought a pair of 916s off the board some time ago knowing they were missing the small plastic pieces off the wings. This problem seemed minor and fixable. What I wasn't ready for was the massive amount of play of the heel peices with a boot in them. It would be annoying as heel to ski on because your boot heel could slop around a cm or so either way and the boot soles are in good shape. Is their any way to fix this or am I fucked. I'm trying to contact someone at Salomon, but am assuming they are going to tell me to take a hike and buy new binders. Any thoughts or experiences whith this issue...

are they the "s-lab" bindings w/ the connector cut? if so you are fucked and have to buy new bindings.

They are pre-sheric and are shown in this thread http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=35359 don't know if this will work since I suck ass at internet shit, but there are pics there that show the bindings I'm having the issues with.

a few questions for ya:

1. Are the wing pieces still missing ? If they're still missing, get them sorted.
2. Who mounted the bindings ?
3. If you mounted the bindings , did you free-drill ? or did you have existing holes?
4. Have you set the bindings up correctly for forward pressure, wing adj etc ?
5. What type of boots are you using ? standard ski boots ?

If you have 1cm of play in the heel of the bindings at the moment, don't ski them again until you get the bindings adjusted correctly. They'll pre-release at any moment by the sound of it or worse.

other things to consider,
forward pressure of course, ussually theres two settings within the proper threshold, go with the tighter one
also, how new are your boots? if they're worn down that could definitly contribute

To answer all the questions:
Boots are well used, but not enough to effect the play.
Forward pressure doesn't seem to eliminate the slop.
I've never skied em and the wing pads can be fixed.
I threw them in some exsisting holes (my mount) to see if they really felt as awful as they did when I twisted the heel pieces by hand, unmounted.
This was with an Atomic 10.5 race alpine boot.
The heel piece itself is where the slop is, whithin the piece that contacts the heel. I can't believe they were being skied on before I bought them. I'm thinking I just pissed my cash away on these fuckers. Woops.

Maybe this is stupid, but anyway, the picture on your link doesn't show screws in the aft holes on the track. Are those screws there now?

Are you using the 5th screw in the heel piece or not.

The 5th screw does seem to have a stabilising effect on the heel track. I have recently got a set of 916's and 997s and have drilled the 5th hole for the heel track. When i remove this 5th screw, it does create some play in the heel.

Remove the ski brake and look for the hole 2 cms back from the one to hold the ski brake in. Thats where the 5th screw needs to go.

If you do have the 5th hole drilled and fixed then the heel track bushings could be shot due to the previous owner not using the 5th hole.

check this post . http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...track+bushings

Look down for highway stars comments regarding heel track bushings and heel play.

If it does turn out to be this, i'd have a 'chat' to the guy who sold them to ya.

hope this helps

I had to come up with screws, I thought a few were missing, but as it turned out all of them were. No biggy I guess, but the slop isn't the heel piece on the track it is the piece that contacts the boot that is then riveted to the piece that slides on the track and houses the din window, (sorry about the bad jargon.) Good info on the 5th screw hole, I don't know if Spew used that hole or not. Intrestingly enough I used the 5th hole on one pair of my old green springs and not on the other (one ski not the other) just to see what would happen, so far nothing and skis the same of course. Oh well. Thanks for all the thoughts though.

So are you saying this piece wiggles a bit

or

is it the boot that wiggles IN this piece.

Just trying to be sure .....


If its the piece itself thats loose, its a warranty job depending on the manufacturing year of the binding. You don't need a receipt if its within its original manufacturing date warranty rather than purchase date warranty.


If its the boot thats wiggling IN this piece even after you replace the missing toe pieces. I would look at the boot being the issue.

Can you borrow another pair of boots from someone so you can test with a fresher/different pair of boots?

Salomon warranty info.

Product Age Verification
Verification that the product is within the warranty period can be made in
the following two ways:
1. Customer receipt indicating product was purchased within the last five years.
2. Component production code* indicating manufacture of product within last five
years.



All Salomon binding components are stamped with a two- or three-digit code upon their
final production to indicate month and year of production. Normally, codes are a letter
followed by a number, with the letter indicating month of production. Each number corresponds
to the actual year of production, i.e., 1 would indicate 2001, 2 would indicate
2002, etc. To simplify the warranty process, product age is determined by the year of
production only. Retail bindings with a production code indicating that the bindings were
manufactured in 2001 (e.g., A1, M1) will be warranted until the end of the 2005/2006 skiseason. Production codes are stamped in various places on all binding components.

Here's a specific thread on this issue as well with a hack fix as well.

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=37085

Also , looking back at mechmasters thread for the production years of Salomon bindings...

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...ighlight=years

... Looks like your binders were made from 1999 - 2001 so you may be lucky if you have a set of 2001 binders.

Production date should be stamped on the bottom of the toe piece. The mark looks like a clock - its a circular pattern with lines arrayed about the center. Each line corresponds to a month. For example, 9 lines (marks about the center until the 9:00 position) represents September.

The number in the center is the year.

Mechmaster,the part you circled is the where the slop is. Doh, 96' seems to be the date of these babies and the local salomon dealers won't touch em' for a warranty. Salomons website says I've gotta send em through a shop. Oh well thanks for the beta. Anyone need 916 parts??? I give up.

Originally Posted by hick

Mechmaster,the part you circled is the where the slop is. Doh, 96' seems to be the date of these babies and the local salomon dealers won't touch em' for a warranty. Salomons website says I've gotta send em through a shop. Oh well thanks for the beta. Anyone need 916 parts??? I give up.

i'll take 'em off your hands

marshalolson, pm replied to.

Originally Posted by marshalolson

are they the "s-lab" bindings w/ the connector cut? if so you are fucked and have to buy new bindings.

SHHH. I am trying to run a scam here...