Wild Ride at Maroon Bells

[panchosdad]

Like 98% of TGR posters.

FIFY

[subtle plague]

If he had been carrying a Glock 9, he could have just unloaded a clip on that rock and blasted it into smithereens and avoided the fall completely

I mean honestly......going out not carrying seems kinda dumb. There are so many cAses where you need a gun in ski mountainneering. In Chamonix they carry them outside their Packs to have them ready when it's steep. 2 glocks minimum. The guides usually carry an AR15 as well for their clients.

[leroy jenkins]

I mean honestly......going out not carrying seems kinda dumb. There are so many cAses where you need a gun in ski mountainneering. In Chamonix they carry them outside their Packs to have them ready when it's steep. 2 glocks minimum. The guides usually carry an AR15 as well for their clients.

What would you call this post? Its not really satire, sarcasm, or even, humor in any sense. What is it?

[subtle plague]

What would you call this post? Its not really satire, sarcasm, or even, humor in any sense. What is it?

It's Sex. Pure Sex. Like Barry white singing in Forum form..

[schindlerpiste]

The God's must be crazy kind of luck, right there

[pfluffenmeister]

What would you call this post? Its not really satire, sarcasm, or even, humor in any sense. What is it?

Don't you 'member that wicked Easter Bunny east coast couloir conquest?

[MagnificentUnicorn]

What would you call this post? Its not really satire, sarcasm, or even, humor in any sense. What is it?

You’re a humorless dolt


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[Anachronist]

What would you call this post? Its not really satire, sarcasm, or even, humor in any sense. What is it?

Frank advice? I guess maybe you could quibble that a SIG Sauer is the better option for sidearm when you need to blast some rocks on the downhill...

[beaterdit]

Old news but at the time, and still, it just doesn't look like this guy has the skills to be safely navigating terrain like that in variable conditions. Don't know much about his background except he grew up on the east side of Denver and went to the military. His skiing reeks of someone who learned to ski in the backcountry, later in life, or at least ever skied enough to actually get good.

That said, he's apparently strong, resourceful, and determined. Looking at his socials, he's now racked up some big objectives including in the Himalaya so good for him.

[subtle plague]

Frank advice? I guess maybe you could quibble that a SIG Sauer is the better option for sidearm when you need to blast some rocks on the downhill...

Are you sure? I think I saw a recent article in Arms & Mountaineering that the sig is not the top choice for harsh mountain environments and lacks the required Rock blasting firepower? Am I mistaken?
The article about blasting rocks from base Camp with a .50 caliber has me thinking about adding some firepower to the quiver.

[pfluffenmeister]

Are you sure? I think I saw a recent article in Arms & Mountaineering that the sig is not the top choice for harsh mountain environments and lacks the required Rock blasting firepower? Am I mistaken?
The article about blasting rocks from base Camp with a .50 caliber has me thinking about adding some firepower to the quiver.

Plus, if you're stuck in super steep terrain no way is a good guy with a pistol going to be able to build a safe picket.

Enter the AR.

[SB]

Answer is always AK

[raisingarizona13]

Answer is always AK

It's not a good day if I gotta pull out my AK.

[skinipenem]

I'm pretty anti gun, but that dude could've used an AK fer sure.

Wow, did he get lucky. And what the hell was he thinking with that turn? Armchair quarterbacking, but seriously wth?

And why no whippet or other self arrest tool?

Shit that makes you go hmmmmm.

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[Shred Baron]

I listened to the podcast he did about this incident and the big thing that struck me was when asked something along the lines of “how could you have avoided this accident” his answer was “I could have turned better”….. that’s it. No, I could have side slipped a bit, maybe done a stem Christy, etc. His take on a self arrest tool is that if you have a need for a self arrest tool that you should be down climbing. Yet he didn’t acknowledge that down climbing the top section that was thin and rocky was an option. I’m assuming his list of options and tools to deal with situations has grown, since he seems to be doing bigger lines regularly.


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[subtle plague]

Plus, if you're stuck in super steep terrain no way is a good guy with a pistol going to be able to build a safe picket.

Enter the AR.

Right?
See my post above. Guides in Cham always carry one for the clients.

[axebiker]

Don't you 'member that wicked Easter Bunny east coast couloir conquest?

The roving gray wolf packs of NH - known widely for taking down many skiers. You just never know... That's why I also carry a BP cuff and some IV bags with me too.

[axebiker]

It's not a good day if I gotta pull out my AK.

Even if you had a breakfast with no hog???

[leroy jenkins]

Frank advice? I guess maybe you could quibble that a SIG Sauer is the better option for sidearm when you need to blast some rocks on the downhill...

Too bad the gubmint won't let us own 40mm for avy control m'right? Just something so classy about an m79 slung on the side of a good bc pack huh?

[leroy jenkins]

I listened to the podcast he did about this incident and the big thing that struck me was when asked something along the lines of “how could you have avoided this accident” his answer was “I could have turned better”….. that’s it. No, I could have side slipped a bit, maybe done a stem Christy, etc. His take on a self arrest tool is that if you have a need for a self arrest tool that you should be down climbing. Yet he didn’t acknowledge that down climbing the top section that was thin and rocky was an option. I’m assuming his list of options and tools to deal with situations has grown, since he seems to be doing bigger lines regularly.


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Yea, I'd also say, just focusing on the turn, just saying turn better is not really even looking into just that turn. He didn't just seem clumsy, he seemed hypoxiated (is that a word it should be!) or exhausted or perhaps target fixation or something but did not simply just seem clumsy, really the turn itself seemed fine, if the rock hadn't of been there it would have been okish, if not really solid, but its that he just seemed to not plan ahead for where that turn was going to end up or something. It really doesn't seem like, just focus more, it seems like theres probably a variety of variables that led to that turn.