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    Quote Originally Posted by Plakespear
    Masterpiece of a musical genius.
    Master-piece of shit ya ask me...but that's why I began with, "In my opinion".

    I saw Wilson singing a Beach Boys song on Letterman or Leno a few months back. He mumbled at least twice because he forgot the lyrics, and I'm pretty sure I saw some strings holding him up and moving his hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bagtagley
    Master-piece of shit ya ask me...but that's why I began with, "In my opinion".

    I saw Wilson singing a Beach Boys song on Letterman or Leno a few months back. He mumbled at least twice because he forgot the lyrics, and I'm pretty sure I saw some strings holding him up and moving his hands.

    Please, sir, it's really quite simple. The Beatles, as I said, are / were the best rock band of all time. And this isn't just my opinion. Many a fine rocker has said so, too. Shit, just listen to the radio, and you'll hear someone imitating them in the first 15 minutes. Stone Temple, just for example, is a louder and grungier incarnation of the fab four.
    So, if you accept this, as you should, than Brian Wilson is one of the most important composer / musicians of the past 50 years, because Lennon - McCartney were listening closely to every note Wilson and the boys were producing in the sixties, and following it up with their own. Sgt. Peppers was made after the boys heard Pet Sounds. Direct result.

    Yeah, he looks bad - if he wasn't worth so much to some people, he would have wound up in a cardboard box on Second Ave babbling about duece coupes or sumthin'. He's sick. Medicated. But I find him much more fascinating to watch than fucking Jagger or Crosby or Townsend or some other wasted old fucker from that time just mailing it in and collecting a check. He's like a little 10 year old lost in the woods. I saw him about 6 years ago at Jones Beach, and it was strange. He seemed uncomfortable at first, but didn't screw up, and warmed up nicely (someone is producing his show well - it isn't him. Nice band, great sound).
    Hey, I'm not a huge fan or anything. Don't play him a lot anymore. But I think he has the potential to actually make a new song that is different than anything he's done before, with really good vocals. That's fine with me. Better than 90% of anything new today.
    I'm actually going to see him tomorrow night. I'll report back. Could be great, could suck. Free tickets, at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane
    Please, sir, it's really quite simple. The Beatles, as I said, are / were the best rock band of all time. And this isn't just my opinion. Many a fine rocker has said so, too. Shit, just listen to the radio, and you'll hear someone imitating them in the first 15 minutes. Stone Temple, just for example, is a louder and grungier incarnation of the fab four.
    So, if you accept this, as you should, than Brian Wilson is one of the most important composer / musicians of the past 50 years, because Lennon - McCartney were listening closely to every note Wilson and the boys were producing in the sixties, and following it up with their own. Sgt. Peppers was made after the boys heard Pet Sounds. Direct result.
    Judge: “Mr. Gambini?”
    Vinny: “Yes sir?”
    Judge: “That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought out objection.”
    Vinny: “Thank you, your Honor.”
    Judge: “Overruled!”

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJSapp
    Thirded on the "fab" four. All they did was kick off the boy band craze that has been on again/off again for the past 40 years. Thanks guys, you paved the way for such wonderful acts as NKOTB, NSync, Backstreet Boys, etc. Some real good work there

    Add The Eagles. Fuck those guys and their damn hotel.
    I'm sorry, but that is truly ignorant on a level that is almost hard to comprehend,& way beyond an opinion.How can you compare the musical genius of the Beatles with pretty boy singers that can't play one insyrumant much less several,don't write music & don't even really sing.

    Zeppelin is spelled this way & they were neither Heavy Metal or Goth.When do the remedial rock classes start,I think there's obviously some extra space available.

    And what is your idea of a seminal rock band,I can't wait to hear.
    Last edited by freshie247; 08-14-2005 at 11:45 PM.
    Calmer than you dude

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    Quote Originally Posted by bagtagley
    Judge: “That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought out objection.”
    So he introduced God only Knows last night by saying it was one of McCartney's favorite songs.

    It didn't suck. He is a composer/band leader now. That's why he looks so awkward and just bad alone. He is primarily a composer for small orchestra. Never was a pure musician. About 11 people on stage most of the time, 18 max at one point with strings. minimum of six people singing, sometimes 9. That was the coolest part. Six to nine really good singers harmonizing. Where do you hear that anymore? Started out an oldies show, intermission, than he performed the Smile album for an hour. I don't think he's making big bucks at this. Not a huge crowd.

    It's pretty obvious at this point that he is a genius. He belongs in Vegas where a patron casino owner can accommodate him and his big band. He looks like travel is not his gig. He did write In My Room.

    It's nice to see good musicians assembled like that. Doesn't happen much in the world of pop music.
    Last edited by Benny Profane; 08-15-2005 at 08:46 AM.

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    U2... none of their songs are that interesting. Everytime I hear Vertigo I change the station.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freshie247
    .....Zeppelin is spelled this way & they were neither Heavy Metal or Goth.When do the remedial rock classes start,I think there's obviously some extra space available.

    And what is your idea of a seminal rock band,I can't wait to hear.
    Ouch!

    Led Z = metal. I read it in the Rolling Stone. And, i think of them as one of the seminal rock bands of the late 60's - 70's.

    I was suggesting that Alice Cooper kicked off the never-ending Goth trend. Never made (or, did not intend it to be read that way) that Led Z = goth.

    "Lighten up or leave me alone" Traffic (another seminal rock band, imho)
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    Let the flaming begin!

    -The Doors. Weak keyboard rock fronted by a hippy Sinatra wannabe. I totally respect John Densmore for not letting the songs be used in commercials, though, despite being offered untold millions. The man has my respect even if I don't like the music.

    -Phish. Frank Zappa for dumb hippies. "Look at US! We're CLEVER!"

    -Frank Zappa. I don't really hate his music, but the fact that every annoying Objectivist I meet seems to revere him as a genius makes me dislike it by proxy.

    -Guns and Roses. Axl sounds whiny and petulant to me.

    -Stevie Ray Vaughan. Blues licks recycled so many times that the paint's worn off. What's the point?

    -The Eagles. I'm sick of every single one of their songs, even the ones I haven't heard.

    (Edited: John Densmore is the one who won't let the Doors' music be used in commercials, not Ray Manzarek.)
    Last edited by Spats; 12-06-2005 at 02:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bagtagley
    Eagles --> Never trust a band w/ a drummer/singer.


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    There's a good one.... The Band. Spare me.

    Elvis - the people whose songs he sang or was paid to imitate were great, but he himself was a semitalented hack. Never wrote his own music.
    Jackson 5
    Springsteen
    Bon Jovi/Motley Crue/Great White etc. (any Hair "Metal" - ugh)
    Any post 70's Rolling Stones
    Jefferson Starship (come ON, Grace!! WTF?)
    Billy Joel
    Elton John (Post-Goodbye Yellow Brick Rd.)

    Less "iconic":
    Phish
    .moe
    N. Mississippi Allstars
    Good Charlotte
    Gov't Mule
    Green Day
    Red Hot Chili Peppers
    .... good God, this list could go on and on.

    Led Zeppelin is where the term Heavy Metal came from.... think about it.

    "Goth" is actually from the people who followed Bauhaus, Siouxsie and the Banshees, and the Cure around in the 80's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJSapp
    Thirded on the "fab" four. All they did was kick off the boy band craze that has been on again/off again for the past 40 years. Thanks guys, you paved the way for such wonderful acts as NKOTB, NSync, Backstreet Boys, etc. Some real good work there

    Add The Eagles. Fuck those guys and their damn hotel.
    i agree 100% on the eagles call, they suck(ed). but comparing the boys from liverpool to those cheesy boy bands? you are stretching just a bit there, my man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by homerjay
    and more recently:

    Coldplay
    Agreed, I change the station everytime one of their songs starts to play.

    Also, I'm just a youngin' so I don't know if my opinion counts on this, but I really can't stand listening to Bob Dylan. Probably just because my friend plays him non-stop and fills my ears till they bleed with facts about Dylan's life.
    Yep, seen this before. Crazy liquor & cheeseburger party got out of control.

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    U2 sucks
    Coldplay sucks
    Weezer sucks
    50 Cent sucks
    Phish sucks
    String Cheese Incident sucks
    Grateful Dead sucks
    Kiss sucks
    The Cars suck
    Journey sucks
    Janis Joplin sucks
    Everysingle fucking inch of country twang ever recorded sucks
    95% of radio played music sucks

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    U2 is one of my most hated bands. Every time I hear Bono belting out some limp dick yell, I go into convulsions. Oh yeah, Coldplay sucks dick too.
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    I Hate:
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    almost everything "pop" (Most stuff on the radio)

    I can stand, but dont like
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    Meatllica ( i really dont know why)
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    eagles, u2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viva
    I also don't care for u2 (Some of the most pompous music I can think of, whatever I mean by that)
    I knew there was something I didn't like about you!!! And yes, I have no idea what you mean by that.

    And U2 does not suck. Have any of you who hate them, seen them live? If no, then you have no idea what you're missing.


    I'm also not a fan of the Beatles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by divegirl
    And U2 does not suck. Have any of you who hate them, seen them live? If no, then you have no idea what you're missing.
    I went to a NASCAR race once. It was a blast, but NASCAR still sucks ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by divegirl
    I knew there was something I didn't like about you!!! And yes, I have no idea what you mean by that.

    And U2 does not suck. Have any of you who hate them, seen them live? If no, then you have no idea what you're missing.


    I'm also not a fan of the Beatles.
    They are live on TV all the time and yes, they still suck. py music live is still crappy music.
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    lets break that down. Bono sucks, The Edge is great.

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    all you Beatles haters dont get it.

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    Hands down, no question: Grateful Dead. The most over-rated bunch of boring longhairs ever. I wasted so much good stony time javing to put up with them because I couldn't reach over and rip the arm off the turntable. I never got Van Halen at all, either. They almost always ventured into awful territory, and Guns and Roses, oh, awful, awful stuff. Did someone say "The Band?" That would be wrong, although if you just heard them, you'd probably think old hippie shit. If you were to watch "The Last Waltz" (all remastered on DVD now; a Martin Scorcese film, actually), I ga-ron-tee you would have to admit that no one ever did anything like what they did, before or since. And you'd have a drummer who sang a lot. Warren Zevon and Rodney Crowell and John Hiatt and David Lindley (Steve Earle, too, until he descended into his hate Bush / hate America rap) are my personal icons. But since they sold about 36 albums total, they don't rate as icons.
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    Matisse-Try some different fruit and/or headwear.
    Corona-Its shitty Mexican beer. Give me a Dos Equis any day.
    Quentin Tarintino-Too odd to be entertaining, too mainstream to be artistic
    Harry Potter-Its pure shit. Literary television.
    Oak-ugly, crappy wood.
    Chopper motorcycles-what the hell is the point of these things? They can't be fun to ride.
    Egyptian pyramids-A bunch of slaves were forced to pile up rocks.
    Baseball-I understand that we invented it, was it really such a terrific concept?
    Tom Petty(someone mentioned earlier)- No good reason, I just don't like him
    You look like I need a drink.

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    Since I have now seen it more than once in this thread.

    The term Heavy Metal did not come from Led Zeppelin.

    It is from the song "Born to Be Wild" which they did not write.

    As far as sucking to the max and being overrated-

    Number 1 on my list would be the King of Pop- Michael Jackson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane
    lets break that down. Bono sucks, The Edge is great.
    The Edge can also sing!
    Well, to each their own.
    U2 is still my fav. band in the world. I met one of my greatest friends at a U2 concert.

    And to all of you haters out there, I say, whatever.

    But to those who hold a special place in their heart for them: I'm going VIP to the concert in Vegas, baby, in November thanks to Lego!!!

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