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  1. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by PNWbrit View Post
    I do. But I also know these guys.
    Lighten up Francis.

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    i wonder what president trump's stance on national park access will be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raypruit View Post
    i wonder what president trump's stance on national park access will be?
    He'll try and privatize all the parks and let the vendors decide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronWright View Post
    He'll try and privatize all the parks and let the vendors decide.
    Maybe we can finally get that tram to camp muir?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    Maybe we can finally get that tram to camp muir?
    Solid silver lining right there!
    Let us so live that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry - Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_Sauce View Post
    Solid silver lining right there!
    The mega casino will change the apres ski game as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    Maybe we can finally get that tram to camp muir?
    Wouldn't a tram to Sunrise/Burroughs and Steamboat Prow be better?

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    Alright! Let's build those trams, I want one to the top of Cashmere too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronWright View Post
    Alright! Let's build those trams, I want one to the top of Cashmere too.
    Yes, that would be glorious. One in the Chiwawa river area would be great too, tram laps on the Mt. Maude North Face would be hyuuuge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    Yes, that would be glorious. One in the Chiwawa river area would be great too, tram laps on the Mt. Maude North Face would be hyuuuge.
    I'm all-in on this one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norseman View Post
    Yes! What a low move. The ensuing flames weren't hot enough IMO.

    Here's the thread:

    http://www.turns-all-year.com/skiing...?topic=31547.0
    How in the world did I miss that thread?
    That was an entertaining read, too bad they don't have a HOF over there.
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    Inter/Emmons neighborhood was crispy but gorgeous today...[IMG]http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161111/be4df62f42c82061d4472503ab498a00.jpg[/IMG
    Gravity always wins...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlpenChronicHabitual View Post
    How in the world did I miss that thread?
    That was an entertaining read, too bad they don't have a HOF over there.
    I don't understand the controversy. Seems like a pretty benign form of civil disobedience.

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    It was civil destruction, ruining the lock was vandalism.
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    SNOW IN THE PNW 2016-17: Return of the Shred-i

    The problem is potentially ruining access for the public

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    The Chinese just built a parking lot at 14,000' on Everest. No reason we can't do the same at Rainier. Heck, super easy to do at Baker too.
    "We don't beat the reaper by living longer, we beat the reaper by living well and living fully." - Randy Pausch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadman View Post
    The Chinese just built a parking lot at 14,000' on Everest. No reason we can't do the same at Rainier. Heck, super easy to do at Baker too.
    Would the parking lot at Baker hover 4000' over the summit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by acinpdx View Post
    The problem is potentially ruining access for the public
    I've not spent much time there but if the gate wasn't there wouldn't it be a net positive for public access?

    I think the NPS over manages everything. I prefer the USFS style a little more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acinpdx View Post
    The problem is potentially ruining access for the public
    Tsk-tsk.
    One shouldn't threaten one of the fundamental functions of the rangers at Rainier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    I've not spent much time there but if the gate wasn't there wouldn't it be a net positive for public access?

    I think the NPS over manages everything. I prefer the USFS style a little more.
    The FS keeps roads, paved even, gated seasonably all the time. Even when they are only partially snow covered.

    The reason that this particular instance was controversial is that they could have legally parked in the sno park and accessed the White River road from there. Of course this means they would have had to ride their sleds over a large section of dry pavement. The gate is in place because there isn't any room to accommodate parking and turnaround where the snow starts, and/or people might to try and continue over the snow in a wheeled vehicle getting stuck and likely abandoning the vehicle. It would be a colossal clusterfuck if they were to just leave the gates all open and allow unrestricted access during these shoulder seasons.

    Their plan had been to drive up White River Rd. until they hit snow and then sled in. They planned on cutting the lock to do this. How do I know this? One of the party members told me in a pm at TAY. They also cut the lock on the Eightmile gate up the Icicle. This really isn't civil disobedience.

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    I stand corrected but I'm still highly skeptical of the NPS having the best interest of the public in mind. I think they engage in rent seeking and empire building behaviors way more than the USFS - and tend to treat the general public with great disdain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norseman View Post
    Yes! What a low move. The ensuing flames weren't hot enough IMO.

    Here's the thread:

    http://www.turns-all-year.com/skiing...?topic=31547.0
    OK. This comment from that thread was pretty funny: "What would John Muir do? He would be pissed they paved the road in the first place. He would keep the gates closed all year. He would walk the 15 miles in wearing wool pants and leather boots, sit in a tempest for hours to observe the glaciers, eat an apple and walk back out. " LOL
    "Great barbecue makes you want to slap your granny up the side of her head." - Southern Saying

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegoSkier View Post
    OK. This comment from that thread was pretty funny: "What would John Muir do? He would be pissed they paved the road in the first place. He would keep the gates closed all year. He would walk the 15 miles in wearing wool pants and leather boots, sit in a tempest for hours to observe the glaciers, eat an apple and walk back out. " LOL
    He would have sauntered...

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    Still sounding promising for a Turkey Day weekend opening with the current forecast at the windy hill, per my insider sources.

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    Longmire gate winter hours go into effect tomorrow
    Colorado seems like a sweet place except for the people that go there because it seems like a sweet place making it no longer a sweet place...

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