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02-06-2016, 05:59 PM #1
airbags work
http://www.redbull.com/us/en/snow/st...rld-tour-kappl
sorry if a repeat
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02-07-2016, 10:06 AM #2Hungover & Homeless
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They can work, but obviously nothing is 100%.
https://utahavalanchecenter.org/avalanches/26182
RIP Doug.
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02-07-2016, 10:57 AM #3
Just because he deployed his bag doesn't mean anything. That was a steep runout without any abrupt transition, the debris field might not have been very deep. I'm not saying that's the case only that it's purely conjecture. As noted above, someone could just as easily make a thread that is titled, AIRBAGS DON'T WORK.
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02-07-2016, 02:33 PM #4
^^^ Yep.
Or Beacons work, shovels etc.
Best thread title would be.
Not being in avalanches is healthy....I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.
"Happiest years of my life were earning < $8.00 and hour, collecting unemployment every spring and fall, no car, no debt and no responsibilities. 1984-1990 Park City UT"
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02-07-2016, 03:30 PM #5Registered User
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Your brain works better than an airbag, beacon, shovel or probe.
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02-08-2016, 11:30 PM #6
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02-08-2016, 11:33 PM #7
no one (except you guys) was implying that someone should check out just because they have an airbag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C_P2Nd0xwY
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02-08-2016, 11:37 PM #8
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02-08-2016, 11:59 PM #9
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02-09-2016, 07:44 AM #10I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.
"Happiest years of my life were earning < $8.00 and hour, collecting unemployment every spring and fall, no car, no debt and no responsibilities. 1984-1990 Park City UT"
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02-09-2016, 08:07 AM #11
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02-09-2016, 12:25 PM #12I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.
"Happiest years of my life were earning < $8.00 and hour, collecting unemployment every spring and fall, no car, no debt and no responsibilities. 1984-1990 Park City UT"
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02-10-2016, 11:22 AM #13Registered User
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According to latest The Avalanche Review, airbags reduce your odds of fatality by 11%. Also, they fail to deploy 20% of the time, with 60% of those failures due to user error.
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02-11-2016, 07:47 AM #14Chowder Lover
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How do you screw that up? Push the trigger instead of pull? Or just simply get in a panic and never actually pull it?
That would be interesting data to dig into. Since only a small % of slides actually kill how do they say a survival is due to an air bag vs dumb luck. Did this guy survive because of his bag? He found his skis right? If his skis "survived" it seems he would have as well had he not had a bag. Just thoughts.
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02-11-2016, 10:00 AM #15
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02-11-2016, 12:15 PM #16Registered User
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I think the stat is that for individuals who died from complete burials, the proper use of an airbag would have reduced the number of fatalities from 22% to 11%. So the message has been that half of the recorded avalanche deaths could have been avoided had the person worn an airbag and properly/effectively deployed it.
In other words, with no airbag, 78% survived. With a properly deployed airbag, the studies suggest that 89% would have survived.
And as everyone agrees, good decision-making, good choices, etc. are the best tools in the kit.Last edited by dschane; 02-11-2016 at 12:42 PM.
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02-12-2016, 10:42 AM #17Banned
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Until the airbags get significantly larger, they aren't going to be as effective as the marketing teams want you to think they are.
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02-12-2016, 10:44 AM #18
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02-12-2016, 11:10 AM #19Banned
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That would be perfect, and to add a little levity to an otherwise serious situation, you would pop up at the bottom sounding like Alvin and the Chipmunks.
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02-12-2016, 09:27 PM #20Chowder Lover
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