Lake Tahoe 2015/16 - Year of Godzilla Baby Jesus

[somethingclever...]

Grade B+ California corn in the Summit City bowls. First drop around 11am.

Any corn reports from this week?

[jvskinn]

I was wondering if I could get you guys to give some opinions on Reno. I currently live in Summit County, CO and am thinking it may be time for a change. I keep coming back to Reno. I've found a few job prospects, and obviously having Tahoe nearby for skiing/Mtb is great, but I can't get a feel for what living in Reno is like. Does it suck? Is it awesome and underrated?

[stoneman]

So you know all about the skiing, mtn biking, water sports, climbing etc that makes this corner of the country amazing ... and are asking about the "culture"? It's not Chamonix or SF, but it doesn't suck. Some surprisingly good restaurants, a good bar scene like in mid-town, a surprising number of good bands come through and play smallish venues (depending on your taste). I lived in big cities for a long time and have managed to find Reno reasonably fun. And Burning Man is right around the corner ... Depends on your expectations I guess.

[El Chupacabra]

I think there's a couple older threads on Reno/Northern Nevada living. I know I've posted on it before here.

Anything specific you want to know? "Does it suck or is it awesome" is pretty broad.

[mean guy]

Are the locals welcoming of transplants or is it hard to break in?

[jvskinn]

I think there's a couple older threads on Reno/Northern Nevada living. I know I've posted on it before here.

Anything specific you want to know? "Does it suck or is it awesome" is pretty broad.

I know it's broad, sorry, it's tough to get a feel for the city only ever having visited briefly. Stoneman really hit on what I'm looking for, what is the culture like in Reno. Is there a cool neighborhood/area where a guy approaching thirty who lives with his girlfriend going to be able to go get beers after work, enjoy a decent meal, and make some friends, or is it mostly cultureless sports bars and guys wearing Ed Hardy t-shirts?

I've read through some of the threads, but it seems like there's not a lot of Reno specific info out there. I just don't want to move to a city that I hate just because it's close to something cool.

Also, my girlfriend has found a lot of people online complaining about the wind? Is it really a big deal out there?

Appreciate your time guys.

[meter-man]

I know it's broad, sorry, it's tough to get a feel for the city only ever having visited briefly. Stoneman really hit on what I'm looking for, what is the culture like in Reno. Is there a cool neighborhood/area where a guy approaching thirty who lives with his girlfriend going to be able to go get beers after work, enjoy a decent meal, and make some friends, or is it mostly cultureless sports bars and guys wearing Ed Hardy t-shirts?

I've read through some of the threads, but it seems like there's not a lot of Reno specific info out there. I just don't want to move to a city that I hate just because it's close to something cool.

Also, my girlfriend has found a lot of people online complaining about the wind? Is it really a big deal out there?

Appreciate your time guys.

I've been considering going from SF to Reno...here are some threads.

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...hp/195434-Reno
AKB's thread: http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...lage-Questions
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...Reno-as-a-home

[El Chupacabra]

Is there a cool neighborhood/area where a guy approaching thirty who lives with his girlfriend going to be able to go get beers after work, enjoy a decent meal, and make some friends, or is it mostly cultureless sports bars and guys wearing Ed Hardy t-shirts?

Also, my girlfriend has found a lot of people online complaining about the wind? Is it really a big deal out there?

1) It's all of those things. Depends on what you like or dislike. The "midtown" area has been redeveloping fast, and is full of new restaurants, bars, etc. -- not really to my liking, as there's a strong hipster feel to it, but it's an improvement over the pawn shops and tattoo parlors.

2) Some areas get very windy. Northwest Reno (lived there for ~ 2 years) in particular. Cools things down nicely in summer; winter isn't that windy except during storms.

FYI, house prices have increased quite a bit in the last 2-3 years, and don't seem to show any signs of slowing down. I don't know if rents have increased similarly.

My overall view of Reno is that it's a mid-sized city that's large enough to have the city features that are desirable (real airport, shopping, restaurants, hospitals), small enough to avoid the city features that aren't (gridlocked traffic, high crime), and is located in a tax-favorable state close enough to all sorts of outdoor things I like doing in the mountains. Great climate -- high desert, low humidity, no mosquitos, 4 real seasons -- not super hot, not super cold. There are negative aspects: underfunded educational system, trashy casino feel to downtown, generic suburban sprawl in a lot of neighborhoods.

[AKbruin]

I've been considering going from SF to Reno...here are some threads.

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...hp/195434-Reno
AKB's thread: http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...lage-Questions
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...Reno-as-a-home

Wow. That seems like forever ago.

Epilogue: I live in Tahoe where I bought a house in 2014, work in Reno 4 days a week, and things are great. As I tell my kids very often, they have it so freaking good. There are a number of folks who live in Truckee/Incline and work in Reno. Very doable with a couple caveats: (1) homes up the hill cost at least twice as much as in Reno; (2) it's usually a 35-45 minute commute each way (but there's almost no traffic and, at least along 431, skiing along the way). I won't pretend that I know Reno all that well, but it strikes me as a more than decent place, particularly if you like the outdoors. It's certainly no worse than many of the suburban communities in the Bay Area or Sacramento. I think a lot of folks associate Reno with Circus Circus and the crappy casino district in downtown Reno. That skeezy part of Reno certainly exists,* but I don't think it plays much of a role in most Renoites' day-to-day lives.

*I once made the mistake of taking my 7-year-old daughter to the ice-cream parlor in Circus Circus at 9 p.m. on a Friday after an event downtown. Never again. Imagine a bunch of tatted-up 19-year-olds making out, the smell of a billion cigarettes, loud noises, degenerate octogenarian slot players simultaneously using oxygen tanks and inhaling Marlboro Lights, and sticky carpeting that, if inspected closely, would likely make a CSI detective vomit.

[Tahoe tim]

I know it's broad, sorry, it's tough to get a feel for the city only ever having visited briefly. Stoneman really hit on what I'm looking for, what is the culture like in Reno. Is there a cool neighborhood/area where a guy approaching thirty who lives with his girlfriend going to be able to go get beers after work, enjoy a decent meal, and make some friends, or is it mostly cultureless sports bars and guys wearing Ed Hardy t-shirts?

I've read through some of the threads, but it seems like there's not a lot of Reno specific info out there. I just don't want to move to a city that I hate just because it's close to something cool.

Also, my girlfriend has found a lot of people online complaining about the wind? Is it really a big deal out there?

Appreciate your time guys.

I moved to Reno from Tahoe last June. So far I like it for the convenience and the people are much friendlier. I find I have gained a bit of weight from all the eating out I do now (tons of options) and the fact I exercise less here. I still work at the Lake and commute so that cuts into recreation time. The wind can get crazy but it's not that noticeable in town. Out in the suburbs or country it is more of an issue. One thing I really like over the lake is the lack of tourons.

[jvskinn]

Exactly the info I was looking for guys, thanks so much.

AKBruin, thanks for the info on the commute. I think living in Incline and commuting to Reno sounds really attractive, and wasn't sure if it was do-able.

El Chupacabra, great write-up. Confirms what I was thinking that Reno is "just big enough." Also, the no state income tax is a plus. Thanks for the notes on Real Estate, things seem relatively affordable compared to Summit, Denver, Seattle, San Fran, which also adds to the attractiveness.

Again, thanks so much for your time guys. Hopefully this ridge moves soon and we all get some snow.

[stoneman]

Incline is very different than Reno, although you're 45 minutes away, it's too far and sometimes problematic to go often, in my opinion. Incline has a few restaurants, a few good bars, a solid ski shop, local climbing (kind of), the only real climbing gym at the lake, mountain biking without the car, a local ski hill that isn't all that bad if you have an hour, and access to awesome backcountry in like 8 minutes from the front door, the crystal bay club gets surprisingly diverse and interesting music, while if you haven't been here 30 years you're not a local, people are generally good natured and solid. Tons of tourists from Cali trashing the roads with bad attitude, but just smile and realize they have to drive home ... North lake is pretty awesome over all though. Good luck.

[markcjr]

its not hard to break into if youre a normal person. there's bars, there''s restaurants and some of the best ski resorts in the country. I came from boston 15 years ago and don't miss it at all. but, if you like big city style shit, then maybe, yeah, it's different. but it's nice being so close to the mountains and riding your bike through town. edit; i live in truckee and bar tendended for 14 years so i know everyone. double edged sword

[gimpy]

Soooooo what's the corn window looking like?
Can anyone give me what time it's been going off and what time is too late?
Thanx

To the guy thinking of moving to reno/tahoe from summit county - DO IT
While Reno def does,have a seedy side, it seems that the vibe in the city has been improving dramatically in the last decade. I believe this change has been mostly brought on by burners in that community

[Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer]

Finally got through the pics from last weekend in Deso:

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...on-the-Compass

[BGnight]

mostly brought on by burners in that community

Ewww, please don't give credit to Reno being awesome to dirty, resource wasting, hedonistic, archon feeding new agers.

[mcski]

Maybe it's gotten better because of CHEMTRAILZ!!!

[Jack Burton]

Skied Rose Knob at 1 Thursday afternoon, good down to treeline. Scratchy for a few turns, then decent corn down to the creek, i did not go to the left side above 3rd creek, pretty much straight down from the skiers left of the Knob. It seemed like a bit of a refreeze had begun, there was a light wind and cloud cover to that kept it cool. I hit tree line ~ 8k it was mank from there back to the car.

[Mazderati]

^ Excellent handle.

[BGnight]

Maybe it's gotten better because of CHEMTRAILZ!!!

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[skinipenem]

We have had a less than stellar experience in reno FWIW. Caveat is that we have lived in some epic places with some combination of outgoing friendly people, killer outdoor access, wonderful arts, and great food. Reno has one of these traits: killer outdoor access. Otherwise, our experience of Reno has been the following: 1) shit food. no desire to go out and eat instead of cook except for sushi which we do not make at home. 2) 'clicky' social groups except for our neighborhood that has some great people. 3) lack of a solid arts / cultural scene 4) more vanity license plates than I've seen in my entire life 5) crappy and rude drivers.

On the bright side Reno has little traffic, excellent dirt bike access, very good mountain biking, very good skiing, and little traffic. The real estate market is booming maybe a little too much right now with possible impending crash per some in the know. Mt. Rose the local mountain has a great mellow and friendly vibe. Rose and squaw are close to REno i.e. way better access than front range. Squaw gets it on big time and is rad, duh. You can ski and ride dirt bikes in the same day. Northstar has a really good DH park that unfortunately get blown out due to dust mid season, but there is a lot of shuttle DH to fill the void. Reno has a huge classic car scene if your into that sort of thing. Reno's festivals include things like a motorcycle week, classic car shows/gatherings, casino based 2nd rate 1980s etc.... music fests, rib cookoff in sparks... you get the idea.

Everyone has tattoos (good or bad I guess depending on yer bent.) Reno is very conservative/libertarian (good or bad I guess.) People who grew up in REno tend to stay there thus maybe the reason for 'clickiness' of social scene. Said 'clickiness' is a complaint many people have mentioned to us during our tenure, including those who moved to Reno over 20 years ago. Everyone owns multiple guns (good or bad.)

PRobably better than the front range, but I have never lived in Denver etc... Clearly, I'm biased, jaded, spoiled, living in dreamland but what did you expect?

[lepistoir]

Tons of tourists from Cali trashing the roads with bad attitude, but just smile and realize they have to drive home ... North lake is pretty awesome over all though. Good luck.

Bay area weekend snow gapers are Tahoe's version of Texans in Colorado. Have found it hard to find a vibrant social scene in north lake, but mostly because we are busy skiing and working, driving the kid around and also not that interested in driving half an hour anytime we go visit people (also don't have enough stamina for CBC shows that start just before midnight). I miss Colorado, not for the snow (which can be awesome), not for the Broncos, but for the politics progressing from red to purple to blue and liberalization in logical ways like pot. Reno seems to be trending that way, but is probably going to change a lot slower than any of the rest of the country. Maybe you can be part of the change.

[lepistoir]

Is BGNight the Hugh Conway of the Tahoe thread?

[Dhelihiker]

Is BGNight the Hugh Conway of the Tahoe thread?

Hugh was funny

[powdork]

Tons of tourists from Cali trashing the roads with bad attitude, but just smile and realize they have to drive home ... North lake is pretty awesome over all though. Good luck.

FWIW we get tourist from both sides and the east shore beaches are always littered more than the west shore. mostly from kids coming from reno and carson.