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02-19-2015, 06:34 PM #26
the problem with this category of skis, is the fucking system bindings.
they develop a shit-ton of play in both the heel and toe, the heels get especially bad.
if you can find a Head super shape, flat, buy it.crab in my shoe mouth
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02-19-2015, 07:06 PM #27
Thinking out of the all-season tire box ...
Let me just ask ... have you ever been on a WC SL ski? Not a de-tuned version but the full-on WC slalom ski?
I assume you have a quiver to keep happy in all other avenues, and with that said the WC SL's aren't the most versatile skis out there, but for teaching/coaching/demo'ing/displaying/etc. on groomers and hardpack they're phenomenal.
A WC SL ski is tough to beat for anything under GS speeds on hardpack. But again, if you're looking for versatility then look elsewhere.Who cares how the crow flies
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02-19-2015, 07:35 PM #28
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02-19-2015, 08:59 PM #29
Yeti, you looking for a short radius or just a rip the shit out of groomers with decent width? If #2 last year's or before Rossi E98 or if you prefer active to damp the Nordica Hell and Back or even better the Nordica Enforcer from I think 2 yrs ago (same mold as the H & B but w metal)
All three of these have a flattish wide tail that finishes high speed carves well, and very subtle front splay so the edge fully engages when laid over The E98 is more of a trench digger, the Nordis aren't quite as aggressive but I feel they are more versatile. I have Praxis's for all my big skis, but love the H&B as my East coast daily driver and West coast no fresh ski. It is more lightweight than the other 2 and very poppy, so it's not the full trench digger you may be looking for but does make a good versatile wide carver
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02-19-2015, 09:11 PM #30
Source of a good easy to read list of Skis (since this thread drifted into 90+ waist):
http://skicanadamag.com/assets/data/1415ski_list.html
If you are looking used or close out also they have 2 or 3 season years back listings also.
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02-20-2015, 01:55 AM #31
Cheers for all the advice - Who would have guessed TGR is such a great source for pisten-carven skis
Want to use these for skiing hardpack at home + instructor exams.
Some good suggestions - checking them all out (Elan Amphibio sounds interesting - especially if it can be found in end of season sale).
WC SL ski?
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02-23-2015, 07:27 AM #32
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02-23-2015, 07:42 AM #33
Here's the thing: I have a 19m ski at 100 underfoot I'm real satisfied with for most days. I'd like something tighter radius for railing like a hard boot snowboarder....so 14/15m.
I skied a 66mm underfoot ski (dynastar speed 66) a bit last year and had major problems with boot out, even stacked absurdly high (started with just the autodrive plate. way too much boot out, so I ended up with look px on top of salomon drive plus plate on top of dynastar autodrive plate) I was booting out, because I'm really heavy so if there's any softness to the snow I dig in pretty deep in a hard carve. I had real problems with that. And if there's some windblown or it's slushy or whatever I don't want to hold back because I'm losing the outside ski once I'm at the turn apex.
So there you go. Tight radius and wide. Just a hair longer radius than a race SL in a much wider waist and preferably 180+ length.
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02-23-2015, 09:59 AM #34
I demo'd a ton of piste skis this winter because it hasn't snowed much and I want to have fun when it doesn't snow, and I'm on small hills out east (400-800m vertical). I tried a bunch of 88mm skis, 84, 80, 78, 76, etc.. I consistently had the most fun on SL ski's. My favourite were the Rossignol Hero Elite ST Ti, they come in a 167cm or 172cm. They love to turn, but you can carve any shape and they're stable at fairly high speeds. They're skinny and short and no problem in bumps. I had it in my head I would buy an 84-85mm ski and ended up getting a 68mm ski. But I've never had so much fun on groomers. I also tried someones FIS SL ski that was tuned to 87', it made ice feel like chalky snow, amazing. But a little more ski than I needed, felt like I was going to get launched into the next run coming out of some turns.
Anyways, try some short SL skis and you might be pleasantly surprised. I also liked the M-16, it would be fun on a bigger hill with a little more room.Last edited by grapedrink; 02-23-2015 at 10:34 AM.
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02-24-2015, 02:16 PM #35
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02-24-2015, 08:52 PM #36
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02-27-2015, 02:06 AM #37
Good info and similar to my current thought process - east coast skiing probably very much like skiing in Scotland.
Sadly not much use for Praxis RX in these parts - however would be sadly disappointed if there wasn't a little hazing from the TGR collective when the subject of pisten-carven is brought up
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02-27-2015, 05:21 AM #38
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