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01-30-2015, 06:44 PM #1
Any Indy bases rock-and-bush-proof?
Discuss; I want rock and bush-proof bases.
I'll sell my shit for rock-proof bases, even if the skiing isn't as silky_smooth as my bovine skis of choice...
The money and time saved from base-grinds and trips to the "ski shop" will off-set the cost of skis after TGR sale...
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01-30-2015, 06:45 PM #2
anything made by Never summer.
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01-30-2015, 06:48 PM #3
On3p and praxis would be a good start.
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01-30-2015, 06:57 PM #4
All ski manufacturers source their base material from one of three sources. There just isn't much difference.
Faster (ie; P-tex 4000) = easier to gouge and repair. Tougher (ie; extruded plastic) = crappy glide and harder to work with.Leave No Turn Unstoned!
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01-30-2015, 07:18 PM #5
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01-30-2015, 07:35 PM #6Registered User
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For whatever reason, Blizzard bases are soft like butter but real fast. Atomic, Salomon, Rossi, 4frnt are still fast but more durable. Moment and On3p are the most durable imo but neither hold wax great, and both have slower bases all else being equal.
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01-30-2015, 07:36 PM #7
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01-30-2015, 08:42 PM #8
Praxis have been a pleasant surprise. Moments were super tough bases as well. Most big brands are shite. Rossi/dyna star being the worst. Yrs ago I had some volkl w a clear base that was very tough but nothing has compared to the praxis and moment skis i have/have had
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01-30-2015, 08:44 PM #9
my 192 bro models have been shockingly durable.
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01-30-2015, 08:47 PM #10
My billy goats are quite tough
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01-30-2015, 09:17 PM #11
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01-30-2015, 09:28 PM #12
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01-30-2015, 09:43 PM #13
Praxis 1, then on3p 2nd IMO. Much better than lines and k2 and rossi's I've been on
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01-30-2015, 09:44 PM #14spook Guest
i hear onp3 is plenty durable on the base anyway
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01-30-2015, 10:08 PM #15Registered User
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this is about as fucking stupid a question as " is a SRAM derailleur more bomber than a Shimano ? "
you hit any ski base with a rock its gona scratch or gouge, you hit any derailleur on a rock it might break and the thing is you never hit either of them exactly the same way ... anecdotal evidence
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01-30-2015, 10:10 PM #16
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01-31-2015, 12:58 AM #17
Fix your own core shots and gouges next to an edge, ignore the rest, base grinds when the bases are no longer flat--shouldn't be that often
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01-31-2015, 01:30 AM #18
Any Indy bases rock-and-bush-proof?
Fix your own *fucking* core shots.
IMO/YMMV etc.
Praxis, ON3P are excellent.
Moment is just a slight cut below.
I actually think folsom is more durable than all of the above.
Of bigger brands, 4frnt is the best, but I would generally describe big brand bases as fragile.
Folsom > praxis > on3p > moment > dps > 4frnt > everything else.
I bet worth skis and h2oG skis are in the same class as praxis/on3p. But I have not used any of those myself.
Edit - pm gear is up there above moment but below folsom somewhere.Last edited by SupreChicken; 01-31-2015 at 07:53 AM.
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01-31-2015, 03:29 AM #19
Any Indy bases rock-and-bush-proof?
Praxis, ON3P, PM Gear, and Moment use the same base material don't they? Durasurf 4001? 1.6mm, 1.8mm, 1.6mm, and 1.2mm respectively, I think. Industry standard is 1.2mm. Praxis makes Worth skis and h2o, right? Blizzard bases are as soft as I've ever seen. I'm sure a few other big companies are just as bad, though. I'd agree that 4frnt is better than most big guys. I think Volkl is too, or at least the old Volkls?
Last edited by Lindahl; 01-31-2015 at 02:46 PM.
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01-31-2015, 06:34 AM #20
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01-31-2015, 06:39 AM #21Banned
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01-31-2015, 07:16 AM #22
can only speak for on3p and praxis and both are a huge step above my blizzard, line and solly skis!
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01-31-2015, 08:21 AM #23
Plus one for Folsom - my Gambits are bomber.
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01-31-2015, 08:31 AM #24
I'd rather have bomber edges. Seem to blow them up beyond repair more often.
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01-31-2015, 09:59 AM #25Registered User
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Don't have much experience with non-indy skis, but my Moments (Bibbys) are considerably less durable than my ON3Ps and Praxis. I actually thought durability was pretty poor on the Bibbys (I have no fewer than 10 major core shots) and the skis have softened up a ton with ~60 days on them. Super fun skis, just not durable, and considering everyone says Moments are fairly bomber, I've chosen to go only with Praxis and ON3P moving forward.
New ON3Ps feel slightly more durable than new Praxis, but they're also heavier, so that makes sense. My most durable skis ever are the original camo Praxis Pows. No core shots in 10 years of searching out rocks plus rounded sidewalls and some sort of vinyl topsheet. Completely indestructible--when you hit a rock, the rock breaks off into the base instead of the base getting torn up.
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