Gaper at Bridger flips his shit

**Bronco** · 01-05-2015, 06:10 PM

I'm a bit disappointed that the video didn't end with a local hearing the commotion from the deck of GR and putting the guy in a headlock. He probably could've walked into the sales office and accomplished the same thing using a normal tone of voice and reasoning. I guess it is possible he has a VOICE IMMODULATION condition though.

**MakersTeleMark** · 01-05-2015, 06:12 PM

98,6543321

**whyturn** · 01-05-2015, 06:19 PM

And the douche of the year is....

**TomCrac** · 01-05-2015, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by wag

Even better it was 3pm!

They don't have night skiing there? What a rip.

**wolfelot** · 01-05-2015, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by muted

In-bounds beacon policy at Bridger is great. It's a psychological thing mostly, when you go by the beacon-checker it sets you up mentally that you are going in terrain where you have to pay attention. There are so many nooks and crannys on The Ridge, it's impossible for patrol to safely control everything. Amazingly though, they do a great a job at it, better than resorts like Snowbird for example. It eliminates a lot of people, so more tracks for me. Also, there are no 'cliff' warning signs so route finding is key. They used to require a partner too, I think they got rid of that???

Also, having a beacon test at the bottom of the Shlasmann lift prevents gapers from getting anywhere near the boundary line and getting lost out-of-bounds and really getting in a tight spot. You can argue it's not necessary, but once you ski there and see how the place works, it's hard to not enjoy the experience the policy creates.

This. Any mag who wants to bitch about the policy is an idiot. Mags always complain about how crowded it can be inbounds. This policy keeps people OUT of there who would otherwise ski YOUR untracked lines, get hurt in the process requiring patrol resources and make the lift lines longer. Lack of a policy makes selfish mags lose.

**LightRanger** · 01-05-2015, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by MakersTeleMark

98,6543321

And it just went up again the other day, right?

**digitaldeath** · 01-05-2015, 07:35 PM

Ha. This was at 3pm. Over 52$!

This guy has balls though...yelling at a lady in a booth cause yer a noob...takes ego and balls

**Tye 1on** · 01-05-2015, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by wolfelot

This. Any mag who wants to bitch about the policy is an idiot. Mags always complain about how crowded it can be inbounds. This policy keeps people OUT of there who would otherwise ski YOUR untracked lines, get hurt in the process requiring patrol resources and make the lift lines longer. Lack of a policy makes selfish mags lose.

sorry, i'll try one more time then stfu...

And i haven't skied Bridger in a couple/three decades, so should just go ski there and see for myself.

But is there really INBOUNDS terrain off that lift that is high hazard, even after control work? If so, then I get it, but like some have said requiring only a beacon without a probe and shovel is like having a really good lighter but no bowl or weed.

**that dude who did that thing** · 01-05-2015, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by Tye 1on

sorry, i'll try one more time then stfu...

And i haven't skied Bridger in a couple/three decades, so should just go ski there and see for myself.

But is there really INBOUNDS terrain off that lift that is high hazard, even after control work? If so, then I get it, but like some have said requiring only a beacon without a probe and shovel is like having a really good lighter but no bowl or weed.

The beacon is so they don't have to work so hard to find your body. So it's like having a lighter, in case patrol runs out of flame and needs yours to light THEIR bowl.

**BFD** · 01-05-2015, 07:48 PM

guy got his money back. I flipped my shit a few weeks ago at the GM dealer. Wanted $57 to tell me what I already knew was wrong with my vehicle than tell me they couldn't fix it for at least two weeks at twice the cost estimate. I had to pay.

**snoqpass** · 01-05-2015, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by muted

In-bounds beacon policy at Bridger is great. It's a psychological thing mostly, when you go by the beacon-checker it sets you up mentally that you are going in terrain where you have to pay attention. There are so many nooks and crannys on The Ridge, it's impossible for patrol to safely control everything. Amazingly though, they do a great a job at it, better than resorts like Snowbird for example. It eliminates a lot of people, so more tracks for me. Also, there are no 'cliff' warning signs so route finding is key. They used to require a partner too, I think they got rid of that???

Also, having a beacon test at the bottom of the Shlasmann lift prevents gapers from getting anywhere near the boundary line and getting lost out-of-bounds and really getting in a tight spot. You can argue it's not necessary, but once you ski there and see how the place works, it's hard to not enjoy the experience the policy creates.

Does the gate keep you out if you don't have a transciever?

**old.ski.bum** · 01-05-2015, 07:58 PM

Dick

**t-the-east** · 01-05-2015, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by snoqpass

Does the gate keep you out if you don't have a transciever?

No gate, the lifty doesn't let you on if you don't beep. Then you're hiking back.

He shoulda remembered his fanny pack...

**stfu&gbtw** · 01-05-2015, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by t-the-east

No gate, the lifty doesn't let you on if you don't beep. Then you're hiking back.

He shoulda remembered his fanny pack...

Awesome.

Looks like a fun place to ski.

**warthog** · 01-05-2015, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by stfu&gbtw

I'm curious... How rowdy is Schlasman's, really? Is the beacon really required frequently or does it mostly amount to limiting the number of retards that go there? When it's gotten skied out, to they lift the beacon requirement? I've seen some youtube videos - seems like a pretty normal area. Getting cliffed out isn't exactly unusual in steep terrain.

I'm reminded of the sign at the beginning of the catwalk above Gauthier at abasin... Something about "Rescuing you from here will take a long time", which seems like it's intended to be intimidating... Until you see how long it takes to pull somebody out of there!

I skied there back in '04 or '05 with Baseweldr and another mag from Missoula. It was my last day after 3 days of hiking, sidestepping some of the better side country terrain at Bridger. The hike was a beast, the lift was closed, except for patrol, and it was a pretty large pucker factor. I was in pretty good shape at the time, and I was out of my league. Baseweldr and the other mag knew the area really well. I don't scare very easily on skis, but I was gripped most of the way down. If I was more familiar with the area, I think it would be an awesome playground. That time though, I was not prepared.

Just a sea level Jong's perspective.

**muted** · 01-05-2015, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by Tye 1on

sorry, i'll try one more time then stfu...

And i haven't skied Bridger in a couple/three decades, so should just go ski there and see for myself.

But is there really INBOUNDS terrain off that lift that is high hazard, even after control work? If so, then I get it, but like some have said requiring only a beacon without a probe and shovel is like having a really good lighter but no bowl or weed.

High hazard after control work? Of course not, that would be shitty control work. But I and many others have got caught in small slides in-bounds. It's a possibility but not a high possibility. I did have one friend die in a slide at bridger years ago, but that was not even in an area where beacons were required. luckily he had one on though or we would have found him in the spring

As for the beacon requirement, read my previous post. You are not quite getting the point.

A bigger slide at Bridger AFTER control work:

**Tippster** · 01-05-2015, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by snoqpass

What makes you think someone who owns a beacon is any better then a renter? If they don't have a shovel or probe it's kinda pointless to have a beacon and a bitch slap would be a good start

Makes you easier to find tho, don't it. Not sure how a shovel and probe help that... No different than Reccos in ski gear, but pinging is probably better than those.

Originally Posted by muted

There are so many nooks and crannys on The Ridge, it's impossible for patrol to safely control everything. Amazingly though, they do a great a job at it, better than resorts like Snowbird for example.

I know I'm a homer, but you base this on what, exactly? AFAIK what Muted mentions has happened once in the 20 years I've skied Snowbird, and that was very early in the season:

Originally Posted by muted

High hazard after control work? Of course not, that would be shitty control work. But I and many others have got caught in small slides in-bounds. It's a possibility but not a high possibility. I did have one friend die in a slide at bridger years ago, but that was not even in an area where beacons were required. luckily he had one on though or we would have found him in the spring

As for the beacon requirement, read my previous post. You are not quite getting the point.

A bigger slide at Bridger AFTER control work:

**ill-advised strategy** · 01-05-2015, 09:22 PM

rental beacons, people beeping because they have to be....you know, having that whole part of the ski area swarming with non-probing, non-digging dudes all over the place in transmit mode isn't exactly going to help when shit goes down.

**muted** · 01-05-2015, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by Tippster

I know I'm a homer, but you base this on what, exactly? AFAIK what Muted mentions has happened once in the 20 years I've skied Snowbird, and that was very early in the season

Based on how many in-bound slides I've been in or set off at Snowbird, compared to Bridger which, sure, is smaller but much more complex. If I could guess why, I'd say Bridger patrol are better at closing things mid-day as snow is piling up and keep stuff closed an extra day for things to settle. After a few close calls at Snowbird, including hitting a tree at high speed in a small slide, I don't trust SB's opinion of what should be open as much as BB. Now I ski cut a ton of stuff at SB, another thing the patrol could do more of. Or maybe BB sets a really really high bar, I dunno.

**jma233** · 01-05-2015, 10:24 PM

I'm all for making things as scary and difficult to access as possible. It worked for many, many years with climbing until closely bolted sport climbs and lowering anchors became common place. Now the sport is a cluster fuck.

**DasBlunt** · 01-05-2015, 10:46 PM

I actually wish Loveland would do this for the farthest gates and snowcat.

**snoqpass** · 01-05-2015, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by t-the-east

No gate, the lifty doesn't let you on if you don't beep. Then you're hiking back.

He shoulda remembered his fanny pack...

Fuck yeah

**TBS** · 01-05-2015, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by YetiMan

rental beacons, people beeping because they have to be....you know, having that whole part of the ski area swarming with non-probing, non-digging dudes all over the place in transmit mode isn't exactly going to help when shit goes down.

Agreed. Only takes a couple of wandering gomers-with-rental-beacons to fuck up a search/rescue

My Hood Meadows requires beacon/shovel/probe/partner on the rare days they open Super Bowl. Even then, I can't recall anyone getting caught in a slide when it was open.

@Muted, does BBs policy just weed out the gomers, or does it weed out those incapable of self/partner rescue as well?

**adrenalated** · 01-05-2015, 11:49 PM

Not a local, but have skied at Bridger...

BB's beacon-required terrain isn't any rowdier than inbounds terrain in other places, but it's up there.

It's rowdier than anything open directly off the JHMR tram. JH has anything with mandatories (other than Corbets and S&S) marked with permanent closures unless it's hike-to. I haven't skied inbounds much in the hike-to areas, but it appears they are much more generous with closures or lack thereof in those zones. You can get legitimately cliffed out at BB off Schlasman's, you can't in JHMR's directly lift-served unless you ignore a closure.

It's no rowdier than things that are open inbounds at Crested Butte.

This is pure speculation, but I wouldn't be surprised if the beacon requirements are a product of USFS/BLM./whoever the landowner is restrictions rather than BB rules. From my understanding, this is the case at Silverton.

I always suspected BB's beacon requirements were more of a gaper exam than an avalanche danger exam.

**The Duke of Hurl** · 01-06-2015, 12:58 AM

Excuse me waiter, please return this entree to the chef. It is undercooked and fails to meet my high culinary standards.

In addition to Sunshine and Big Sky's beacon-only terrain, I believe that both Crystal and Baker have chosen days after heavy storms to open and require all users to carry beacons, probes and shovels.

This guy is the modern equivalent of the village idiot.