Thread: A Maggot Fighting in Iraq

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p.s. - i'm in for some dough if someone is willing to do a paypal for socks and such

Originally Posted by Cliff Huckable

Huh? What's he doing for his country?

Serving in the fucking armed forces dumbass.
Thought you were gonna change your name BTW.

It's always interesting to read about these experiences... hopefully he'll get a nice deluge of packages for the next month or two.

Also, as I was looking up restrictions, I found the specific things that apply to his FPO... given, most of them are common sense, but the package dimension limitations are useful, I think.

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FPO AP 96426-3665

See Restrictions: A-A1-B-B1-C1-E2-F-H1-I-M-R-R1-U2-V-Z-Z1

A. Securities, currency, or precious metals in their raw, unmanufactured state are prohibited. Official shipments are exempt from this restriction.

A1. Mail addressed to "Any Servicemember," or similar wording such as "Any Soldier," "Sailor," "Airman," or "Marine"; "Military Mail"; etc., is prohibited. Mail must be addressed to an individual or job title such as "Commander," "Commanding Officer," etc.

B. PS Form 2976-A is required for all mail weighing 16 ounces or more, with exceptions noted below. In addition, mailers must properly complete required customs documentation when mailing any potentially dutiable mail addressed to an APO or FPO regardless of weight. The following are exceptions to the requirement for customs documentation on nondutiable mail that weighs 16 ounces or more:

• Known mailers are exempt from providing customs documentation on non-dutiable letters, and printed matter weighing 16 ounces or more. (A known mailer is anyone who legally applies a permit imprint to a mailpiece. Mail with meter postage is not considered to be from a known mailer.)

• All federal, state, and local government agencies are exempt from providing customs documentation on mail addressed to an APO or FPO, except for those APOs/FPOs to which restriction B2 applies.

• Prepaid mail from military contractors is exempt, providing the mailpiece is endorsed "Contents for Official Use - Exempt from Customs Requirements."

B1. PS Form 2976 or 2976-A is required. Articles are liable for customs duty and/or purchase tax unless they are bona fide gifts intended for use by military personnel or their dependents. When the contents of a parcel meet these requirements, the mailer must endorse the customs form, "Certified to be a bona fide gift, personal effects, or items for personal use of military personnel and dependents," under the heading, Description of Contents. Exceptions: All other exceptions listed in restriction B above are applicable to this restriction

C1. Obscene articles, prints, paintings, cards, films, videotapes, etc., and horror comics and matrices are prohibited.

E2. Any matter depicting nude or seminude persons, pornographic or sexual items, or nonauthorized political materials is prohibited. Although religious materials contrary to the Islamic faith are prohibited in bulk quantities, items for the personal use of the addressee are permissible.

F. Firearms of any type are prohibited in all classes of mail. See definitions of firearms in DMM C024.1.1C. This restriction does not apply to firearms mailed to or by official U.S. government agencies. The restriction for mail to this APO/FPO ZIP Code does not apply to firearms mailed from this APO/FPO ZIP Code, provided ATF and USPS regulations are met. Antique firearms are a separate category defined in DMM C024.2.0 and ATF regulations; they do not require an ATF form.

H1. Pork or pork by-products are prohibited.

I. Mail of all classes must fit in a mail sack. Mail may not exceed the following dimensions:

Length

42" 72" length and girth combined

over 42" to 44" 24" girth

over 44" to 46" 20" girth

over 46" to 48" 16" girth

Maximum length 48"

This restriction does not apply to registered mail and official government mail marked MOM.

M. Fruits, animals, and living plants are prohibited.

R. All alcoholic beverages, including those mailable under DMM C021, are prohibited.

R1. Materials used in the production of alcoholic beverages (i.e., distilling material, hops, malts, yeast, etc.) are prohibited.

U2. Mail is limited to First-Class Mail letters only when addressed to Box R.

V. Express Mail Military Service (EMMS) not available from any origin.

Z. No outside pieces (OSPs).

Z1. The following restriction is applicable only to International Service Centers (ISC)/Exchange Offices. An Anti-Pilferage Seal (Item No O817E or O818A) is required on all pouches and sacks.

Originally Posted by shamrockpow

Ice: I disagree with MrG's attitude and politics as much as you, but your comments were outta line. They need all kinds of stuff (socks and wetnaps included), so I'll give credit to anyone who helps out. Of course, I wish they wouldn't vote for such a crusader president and arrogant SOD, but that's America...

Thanks, I guess. However, I'm the last one that needs defending. Especially from a human joke like iceman.

whether or not you think supporting the troops and supporting the war is mutually exclusive. point of fact is the "arab street' is speaking right now. for the first time in almost a century elections are being held on the municipal level in Saudi Arabia. Syria is losing its grip on Lebanon. Palestianians have a leader that isn't a terrorist. Egyptians have the chance(however futile) to elect a new leader. Giving Iraqi's the chance for democracy has triggered something in the middle east. what I don't know. the chances of this being Czechoslovakia in 1968 are a little less than it being an Arab Spring. However, without the US spearheading a war to take out Saddam, none of the above has a chance.

what these men and women are doing is giving hope to a whole continent that hasn't had anything even resembling hope for over a century. I believe freedom and democracy will prevail. mainly because of the action our country has taken.

Quite a few of you disagree with this. whether it be the reasons for the war or a general hatred of GWB and the Republican leadership. it is your right to do so. however our might is giving people in the middle east the ability to do the very same thing. not using our power to give these people a chance at freedom would be criminal.

Alright, so a lot of people have offered to chip in towards a care package. I'll step up and put it all together if people want to paypal me what they're willing to give. Get the money to me by next Friday, April 15 (you're already giving to the govt on that day, so you might as well contribute for this as well). Paypal me at:

m_ostrander (at) comcast (dot) net

Whatever the total is as of 5pm on Friday, I'll place an order for Bridgedale Army socks at Sierra Trading Post for half Mediums and half Larges.

If you have anything else that you'd like to contribute to the package, PM me and I'll send you my address.

I'm not looking to turn this into any kind of pro/anti-war statement. Just hoping to help out a fellow Maggot. If you want to argue about this...take it somewhere else!!

Originally Posted by SkiingBear

I'm not looking to turn this into any kind of pro/anti-war statement. Just hoping to help out a fellow Maggot.

Thanks, SkiingBear, for taking point on the monetary contributions. My intent in posting his words was to let everyone know that one of our own is over there and in harm's way. That you all stepped up to help Dave and his mates is beyond awesome. I have tons of ski mags and other goodies I'll be shipping out.

Skiing Bear...$$ Sent. Thanks for taking the lead on this.

thanks ski bear.

you've got $$$$.

Only 3.5 hours in and well over $150 raised so far, FKNA!! I wonder if there's a limit on how many socks they really need? I know David asked for food as well as socks, so I'll put some of this money towards that for the package as well...some ideas for what to send would be helpful. Something tells me that David's going to have a lot of new friends when this package arrives

Originally Posted by mr_gyptian

whether or not you think supporting the troops and supporting the war is mutually exclusive. point of fact is the "arab street' is speaking right now. for the first time in almost a century elections are being held on the municipal level in Saudi Arabia. Syria is losing its grip on Lebanon. Palestianians have a leader that isn't a terrorist. Egyptians have the chance(however futile) to elect a new leader. Giving Iraqi's the chance for democracy has triggered something in the middle east. what I don't know. the chances of this being Czechoslovakia in 1968 are a little less than it being an Arab Spring. However, without the US spearheading a war to take out Saddam, none of the above has a chance.

what these men and women are doing is giving hope to a whole continent that hasn't had anything even resembling hope for over a century. I believe freedom and democracy will prevail. mainly because of the action our country has taken.

Quite a few of you disagree with this. whether it be the reasons for the war or a general hatred of GWB and the Republican leadership. it is your right to do so. however our might is giving people in the middle east the ability to do the very same thing. not using our power to give these people a chance at freedom would be criminal.

well said sir. some have blinders on and forget to see how much good has actually come from what we did in the middle east. given, we may not have gone about it in the best way and may still not be going about it in the best way, however ultimately, the positive results have far outweighed the negatives.

this may be somewhat of a jongish question but how do i go about the whole paypal thing???

Originally Posted by mr_gyptian

I..... whether it be the reasons for the war or a general hatred of GWB and the Republican leadership. it is your right to do so. however our might is giving people in the middle east the ability to do the very same thing. not using our power to give these people a chance at freedom would be criminal.

So you agree that Bush lied about the WMD's.

Originally Posted by hucksquaw

this may be somewhat of a jongish question but how do i go about the whole paypal thing???

First...get a paypal account at paypal.com. Then, send money to me at my email addy provided earlier. Make sure to add a comment regarding socks or whatever so I know what the payment is. It's all new for me too.

Originally Posted by SkiingBear

First...get a paypal account at paypal.com. Then, send money to me at my email addy provided earlier. Make sure to add a comment regarding socks or whatever so I know what the payment is. It's all new for me too.

gotcha thanks...

[edit] money sent - hopefully it worked

Money sent...
(if i figured out paypal)

vibes sent for his safe return.

i may paypal u some money later in this week for a great cause!

Originally Posted by Cliff Huckable

Huh? What's he doing for his country?

I hope he's safe and gets home soon.
Pretty sad that this guy is a member of the most powerful army in the history of humankind and people have to take up a collection to send him basic stuff like socks and wet-naps. The last people to pitch in would be the oil companies he's there fighting for.

well, this was an unneccessary comment.

I have to say one thing here. what is going on in Iraq is quite normal. moving from a communist government to democracy is very difficult, demonstrated in many countries-even ours. THink of it this way, how much easier is it to do something when you have someone telling you what to do and when. Now consider the transition to having the ability to do whatever you want, when you want. That is one of the main issues occuring in Iraq Now. Democracy comes over time, not overnight. and he is helping to slow down the first pitfalls of the start of a democratic nation, that will in the end, benefit all of the middle east.

Now, you say fighting for oil? that is part of it, yea. but i would like to see oil prices drop once we begin to export Iraqs oil then going up. Currently, the US does not control oil prices-that is OPEC. And they are raising prices and limiting supply, so the only way for us to get the cost down is to export it on our own, and this is the only way to come about it. But doing this will benefit Iraqs economy by providing jobs, stable income, and raise their GDP when they become more democratic, and also help the US to a lesser extent as well.

We have also benefited anyone in Iraq. The atrocities Saddam Committed is often forgoten. Ricen gas, beating up olympic athletes-do i need to go on? Most ppl are thankful for what we have done, but reading my first paragraph, what the people do now in Iraq will dimish as the government elected in Iraq gains more popularity. We know this will work because the elections far surpassed our expectations and the number that voted was enormous.

Now, im not goin turn this into an antiwar/pro war thread. hes over there helping out that country and stabilizing it, so everyone forget about what the war means to you, just be grateful and hope for a safe return.

SkiingBear, thanks for stepping up to the plate!! I just sent some $$ your way for AK Pogue and his bro's.

Originally Posted by surftb15

We have also benefited anyone in Iraq. The atrocities Saddam Committed is often forgoten. Ricen gas, beating up olympic athletes-do i need to go on? Most ppl are thankful for what we have done, but reading my first paragraph, what the people do now in Iraq will dimish as the government elected in Iraq gains more popularity.

I am going to go ahead and kindly disagree with the statement that most people in Iraq are grateful for what we are doing. I think that the media is not fairly covering that aspect of our occupation. Go chill out in Iraq and tell me the people are happy that we are there. They are not. I am not sure if it is because of all the civilian casualties incurred during our time of occupation, or they are just too brainwashed by Saddam's dictatorship.

Me personally, I just wish we did not go in for the reason given to the public. WMD. Clearly they are not there, and I doubt it was just a huge intelligence failure. In my opinion, the Bush administration only used that excuse as a guise to control more oil.

I wish what we did instead of go to war was invest all the money we spent on being there on research for alternative fuels. If we could be successful at that, oil prices would plummet and no one would care about the land in the Middle East for any reason other than religious reasons, which is not our responsibility.

Originally Posted by Steezus Christ

I am going to go ahead and kindly disagree with the statement that most people in Iraq are grateful for what we are doing. I think that the media is not fairly covering that aspect of our occupation. Go chill out in Iraq and tell me the people are happy that we are there. They are not. I am not sure if it is because of all the civilian casualties incurred during our time of occupation, or they are just too brainwashed by Saddam's dictatorship.

Not getting into the arguement either way, but this can be seen by today's demonstrations in the highy symbolic square that saw, two years ago, the fall of Saddam's statue.

For more info...

edg

Originally Posted by edg

Not getting into the arguement either way, but this can be seen by today's demonstrations in the highy symbolic square that saw, two years ago, the fall of Saddam's statue.

For more info...

edg

tens of thousands is a good bit different than the million Sadr was calling for. I wonder if any of them have paused to consider what Saddam would have done if they even made mention of a protest march. additionally, a very positive thing to be taken from the march is the fact that they were peaceful.


edit:http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/200...f-liberty.html

from the horses mouth.

Originally Posted by SkiingBear

Only 3.5 hours in and well over $150 raised so far, FKNA!!

I talked to the store manager at REI when I got to work this morning; he suggested I contact both Bridgedale and Smartwool directly - as well as our community outreach representative. Please give me a couple days to see if I can pull together a pro-deal on socks so the dollars go further. With any luck the manufacturers will match our purchase with a in-kind donation.

I'm in for some cash too.

How about you guys take your thread about politics to one called "Iraq War" and leave this one about helping out a fellow maggot alone? Just a thought.

Bear, you've got some dough from me.

Ideas for adding to the package:

- Multiple decks of cards
- Latest issue of Playboy or the SI Swimsuit issue
- A few packages of primo BBQ sauce or something to make MREs bearable
- Comedy DVDs
- Music
- Assortment of books

Originally Posted by 13

- Latest issue of Playboy or the SI Swimsuit issue

Originally Posted by backpack

E2. Any matter depicting nude or seminude persons, pornographic or sexual items, or nonauthorized political materials is prohibited.

Though normally it might not be an issue, because of the weight a customs declaration will probably be needed and the package might be searched. Just a thought.