Easy turning fat ski- 100-105mm

**DougW** · 12-02-2014, 03:24 PM

For a friend , dislikes his G3 Manhattan but loved JJ on cat skiing trip. In very good shape and excellent mtn. biker, took up skiing late. So what would be a short list to demo. Would be a resort ski at KH with some slackcountry mounted with Barons.

**Timberridge** · 12-02-2014, 03:50 PM

Try something like a Soul/Sin 7, or staying with Armada, TST, both are easy turning.

**Notchtop** · 12-02-2014, 04:38 PM

Cham 97 or 107 turn easy, float, and can still be railed.

**skimaxpower** · 12-02-2014, 04:56 PM

I'm only about 20% kidding when I recommend the BBR 10.0 ... That is, if "easy turning" is the goal.

http://store.christysports.com/catal...Fc6CfgodiosAZA

He will also attract lots of cougars in the lift line who say "wow, we have the same skis!"

**XXX-er** · 12-02-2014, 05:03 PM

I've had a pair of JJ's for 4-5 years and liked the TST demo

**teledad** · 12-02-2014, 06:28 PM

Atomic Automatic 102.

**bl2000** · 12-02-2014, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by skimaxpower

I'm only about 20% kidding when I recommend the BBR 10.0 ... That is, if "easy turning" is the goal."

Yeah they're crazy easy to turn and a blast in powder. But also crazy sensitive to mounting point.

**undertow2** · 12-02-2014, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by Timberridge

Try something like a Soul/Sin 7, or staying with Armada, TST, both are easy turning.

Exactly what Timber said and it is a tad over 105, but he also needs to look at the Line Sir Francis Bacon... I bought it in a 190 for Fam days and it is stupid fun, turny, but still can hold its own especially when considering the fun factor...

**DougW** · 12-02-2014, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by Notchtop

Cham 97 or 107 turn easy, float, and can still be railed.

That was a surprise but I checked it out and it has pretty small turning radius

**Shorty_J** · 12-02-2014, 08:14 PM

You can get chams cheap on ebay from the seller asogear.

**mntlion** · 12-02-2014, 08:36 PM

old Rossi S7? Some of the icelandic (on big discount STP)

anything with a 20ish m turn radius.

**grinch** · 12-02-2014, 10:20 PM

PM Skisurfmirth . minty 183 carbon praxis mvp's medium flex for 3 bills in golden. I think he had some skins with them too. they'd b perfect khmr/slack ski for your friend especially with the medium flex
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**DougW** · 12-03-2014, 12:08 PM

I would think looking at reviews that the Cham would be too much ski for him, easy turning but maybe too hard skiing. Probably a middle to low intermediate. Can get down the hill pretty well, never really have to wait because he is so fit/strong but kinda in a stiff gorilla stance, no upper /lower body separation.

**gregL** · 12-03-2014, 12:12 PM

Soul 7, Q-105, Shreditor 102?

**nyskirat** · 12-03-2014, 06:27 PM

+1 for Line SFB

**MagnificentUnicorn** · 12-03-2014, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by DougW

I would think looking at reviews that the Cham would be too much ski for him, easy turning but maybe too hard skiing. Probably a middle to low intermediate. Can get down the hill pretty well, never really have to wait because he is so fit/strong but kinda in a stiff gorilla stance, no upper /lower body separation.

While easy turning, they do require a centered stance for that and don't like back seating at all. It's a lot of ski in the regular version, less so in the HM. Weird design. They are very stiff except the shovel and can ski very fast.

**Skiwurrel** · 12-03-2014, 08:20 PM

Head cyclic

**WMD** · 12-03-2014, 08:49 PM

Love my Liberty Double Helix. Super easy to ski and great on groomers too.

**grinch** · 12-03-2014, 09:19 PM

built up those carbon mvp's on the praxis site, that skisurfmirth might have. medium flex carbon 183's weigh in at 7.9lbs. if he's sold them there is still 2014's on sale on the site. pm me for further 15% off code

**Full Stoke George** · 12-03-2014, 09:42 PM

Annex 98's were a dream to initiate and finish turns. Just out of your waist range, can only assume the 108's would be similar. 22m radius, bit squirrely at high speeds through chop/crud though. TST's have an even softer flex according to web stats so you should be sweet.

**DougW** · 12-03-2014, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by geezerb

Head cyclic

Head Collective??

**Skiwurrel** · 12-03-2014, 11:28 PM

Whatever it is it's got yellow tips and a stupid amount of sidecut. Not my style, but I've been surprised by some of the heads, and they're dirt cheap. The new A star (James heim pro model) looks really sick.

**DougW** · 12-03-2014, 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by DougW

Head Collective??

Collective is 105 under foot and has blue rather than the yellow tip / tails

**Lambert** · 12-04-2014, 01:24 AM

Moment Underworld

**GeezerSteve** · 12-04-2014, 10:42 AM

Good thread, lots of solid recommendations.

Originally Posted by DougW

Probably a middle to low intermediate. Can get down the hill pretty well, never really have to wait because he is so fit/strong but kinda in a stiff gorilla stance, no upper /lower body separation.

Lessons? I'd steer him to one of the softer-tail skis recommended herein