Tug Hill Anyone?

[Benny Profane]

Oh no, BP is going to be in a place where there's snow AND mountains.

Hey, at least it gives Vermonters someplace to look down on.

[thewon]

I can see it now.... Three hundred million metric tons of garbage off gassing a hideous stench for fifty miles due to global warming and persistent winter monsoon rains accelerating the decay. High speed quad now sinking into the man made mountain and requiring a canyon cut thru the putrid mess.

would be almost as bad as the air quality of SLC in january

NF, I'd love to go, if only to experience the legend of the deep. Unfortunately, work is full on, so no go. Don't listen to Rog....do it!

oh he knows better than to listen to me.

[DoWork]

Oh no, BP is going to be in a place where there's snow AND mountains.

Don't forget no skiers and blanket WiFi coverage.

[raisingarizona13]

Too bad the Daks aren't a few hundred miles to the west and right up against the Buffalo area. I wonder what kind of snowfall they would get with the lake effect and orographic lifting.

[Benny Profane]

A lot more than they do now.

[Benny Profane]

This morning

[BigDaddy]

oh he knows better than to listen to me.

Ha, ha...we all do

[thewon]

This morning

^^^^^^^terrain looks rad. Tow in territory to be sure.

[Buster Highmen]

Indianhead, Wakefield, UP, MI: 77" in the last 7 days, 84 total this year.


Hiawatha's rad.

[neufox47]

Indianhead, Wakefield, UP, MI: 77" in the last 7 days, 84 total this year.


Hiawatha's rad.

I remember snowmobiling the Keewenaut sp? penninsula a decade ago and they had photos of their record snow year, dont remember the number of inches but the snow was up to the telephone wires. They said it started snowing in November and didnt stop until late April.

[Grape_Ape]

Off the eastern end of Lake Ontario in northern New York.

Meanwhile in Buffalo...

I was just explaining lake-effect snow to my boys this morning. This would have come in super handy.

[ArmadaBC]

Could someone with some wx savvy please explain why the snow never makes the extra 50 miles to fill in the Daks a little better. Not even greedy, just a foot of the ten would be nice.
Paging L Hutz -

I believe you simply run out of moisture but could you imagine........

[BigDaddy]

Too bad the Daks aren't a few hundred miles to the west and right up against the Buffalo area. I wonder what kind of snowfall they would get with the lake effect and orographic lifting.

With a few river diversions and some well placed dams, I bet you could build a new great lake a couple miles to the west of the daks...


No one lives there and it might be easier than moving the mountains.



Who's the new EPA administrator?

[ncskier]

In all seriousness, while buffalo is a true shit hole well past its prime, I thought it could be the next Dubai, if they started piping their water to SoCal and Phoenix. Kind of like an Alaska pipeline type project but for freshwater they sell. If it leaked, no big deal.

[neufox47]

In all seriousness, while buffalo is a true shit hole well past its prime, I thought it could be the next Dubai, if they started piping their water to SoCal and Phoenix. Kind of like an Alaska pipeline type project but for freshwater they sell. If it leaked, no big deal.

I think the mississippi river or Superior WI would be a better candidate. Great Lakes have been dropping fast in recent years though. Last I talked to people back home Michiagan was down 10-12 ft if I remember.

[Benny Profane]

In all seriousness, while buffalo is a true shit hole well past its prime, I thought it could be the next Dubai, if they started piping their water to SoCal and Phoenix. Kind of like an Alaska pipeline type project but for freshwater they sell. If it leaked, no big deal.

I doubt that the residents of Buffalo can lay claim to that water. They may make a few bucks pumping it.

[Soups]

Last I talked to people back home Michiagan was down 10-12 ft if I remember.

Sounds about right. Every year my family goes out to the same cabin on the Lake Mich beach in Door County, WI. I went last year for the first time in 20 years.

When I was a kid I remember going out by boat to look at an old shipwreck just off a sand bar about a hundred yards or so out. Last year, and I guess for quite a few years, you can wade all the way out to it and stand on it with water only up to your ankles. 20 years ago we were over it in a boat.

[ncskier]

I doubt that the residents of Buffalo can lay claim to that water. They may make a few bucks pumping it.

Dont dash my dreams of a buffalo comeback. I went to college in western NY and when I go back to the area for work, I'm amazed at how little has changed in 20+ years. If I go to Florida and skip an area for work for a few months, I can come back and its been changed, mostly with people from Buffalo

[NoPostholio]

This guy has done a lot of weather research at Tug (scroll down a few posts..)

http://wasatchweatherweenies.blogspo...ch/label/OWLeS

Thanks for that - very interesting blog.
Really funny how he is doing wx for wasatchistan and THP, but they are ground zero for some historic accumulations.

This one was especially good
http://wasatchweatherweenies.blogspo...satch.html?m=1

[totaliboard]

start skiin' mothafukasssss

[Hugh Conway]

Don't forget no skiers and blanket WiFi coverage.

snow, mountains, no "skiers"? Sounds like paradise.

[MyNameIsAugustWest]

Reality check inbound. Snow Ridge is relatively flat and very small. I used to live not too far from there and have skied there a fair bit. With that much snow, you're not going to turn.

While Buffalo is getting hammered now, Lake Erie freezes in early January and the snow ends...Lake Ontario rarely does freeze and so the Tug Hill Plateau (and Syracuse) gets hammered with Lake Effect all the way through April...great sledding out that way.

Buffalo = Bennytown...I laughed. I spend a couple of weeks a month out that way for work. It exemplifies the term "rust belt" yet the people out there love it. Pretty good food but not much else. They live and die for the Bills and Sabres but both teams haven't been good for a long time.

[huckbucket]

I spend a couple of weeks a month out that way for work. It exemplifies the term "rust belt" yet the people out there love it. Pretty good food but not much else. They live and die for the Bills and Sabres but both teams haven't been good for a long time.

I live 60 mins down the thruway. Downtown Erie, Buffalo, Roch, Syracuse, Utica, etc all look like shit. The suburbs and surrounding hills/lakes are where it's at. It's a trade off. No culture and small job markets in exchange for less crowding, cheaper housing (although taxes are high), great schools, great riding and OK skiing. Pick the poison.

[wooley12]

Lived on the south shore of Lake Ontario and The Tug Hill was our family snow play destination for a bunch of years. The wind direction, early season (no ice cover) and temp differential between air and water makes this storm a monster.

Tug Hill cam link.
http://www.northernchateau.com/northernchateau.htm
Montegue was getting some as I write.

Meanwhile on the Buffalo to PA stretch the wind just shifted from west to southwest .
Dunkirk at 12:25 a m


and 2 hours later looking north towards Buffalo


Where it looked like this


Fun to watch.

[half-fast]

Snow Ridge is only reporting 16"-most of the lake effect went north-dry hill should have gotten bombed