Avalanche Shovel Size?

[thewon]

[adrenalated]

I swear by a shovel with hoe mode. You can move a ton of snow FAST in hoe mode. That and saying hoe mode in a semi professional setting is fun.

Once you go hoe, you don't go back.

Seriously. Dig a pit with a hoe sometime, then think about what shovel you want your buddy digging you out with.

[superdigg]

Like mentioned: The best one is one you bring with you. So firstly make sure it fits your pack, then consider if weight is an issue before you choose. If you ever think about leaving a shovel behind it might be the wrong one.

I actually swear by a quiver of shovels so to say - meaning two: One larger for big packs and one smaller that will fit any small pack used for sidecountry or short tours.

[PNWbrit]

You cant spew troll garbage one minute, then try and sound hard as fuck the next. You may want to re-think this.

You're new around here huh?

Well meet the Rawg.

This shit is all he does.

Buster - the K2 Shovels are pretty nice IMO. Hoe function, nice flat blade for science or stove rest. The scalloped blade edge seems to cut into harder snow far better than my other shovels with flat edge like voile telepro. Wish K2 made one with a saw in the shaft like voile.

[~mikey b]

Seriously. One of the biggest tools here. Shovels an amazing amount of bullshit. Disregard.

[Buster Highmen]

Buster - the K2 Shovels are pretty nice IMO. Hoe function, nice flat blade for science or stove rest. The scalloped blade edge seems to cut into harder snow far better than my other shovels with flat edge like voile telepro. Wish K2 made one with a saw in the shaft like voile.

[poppa woody] Ah bees kneeding one o dem hoe functions. Oh yeah.[/poppa woody]

I've got a voile and it's OK but I'd like to tune the packsize down a little and the voile just seems clunky and big. It works fine, but I was just thinking that maybe something just a smidge smaller might work. Hence the query.

[Buster Highmen]

and btw, props to most of you for keeping on topic.
I concede a topical troll tangent and was pleasantly surprised...

[PNWbrit]

I've got a voile and it's OK but I'd like to tune the packsize down a little and the voile just seems clunky and big. It works fine, but I was just thinking that maybe something just a smidge smaller might work. Hence the query.

The K2 blade is a little more compact, doesn't have the extended ferrule ( ) of the voile.

This helps is some of my packs but in others the voile fits (ferrule down) betterer.

They're not the lightest though. I think Ortovox makes a skimpier shovel with similar hoe features that might be more the ticket?

[XXX-er]

If someone on TGR tells you he sells custom intuition liners without customizing them, cuts his tail straps off new skins, doesn't buy snow tires or proper car insurance (if allowed) and uses (this is new) a plastic shovel ... its roj

I know there was one other alias between roj and thewon that I forget ... were there others ?

You know if you got rog really mad when he posts homophobic slurs and goes away to resurface as someone else

[LightRanger]

(Checks dimensions of scoop on G3 Avitech...)
Exactly 9.5"x10.5"

Odd measurements though, because it's quite similar in size to a Telepro. I think the two companies must measure from a different point.

If I was buying today, I'd look at one of the new BDs with the hoe function (or the several other shovels already on the market with that function).

[Buster Highmen]

They're not the lightest though. I think Ortovox makes a skimpier shovel with similar hoe features that might be more the ticket?

Skimpy hoe? Oh yeah!

[Mofro261]

Lexan worked great for many years of carrying in a pack, letting kids use it as a sled, digging pits and making kickers and some driveway work, but it never saw use in an emergency digging through solidified debris. 20 yrs later the kids still play with them and they remain unbroken. I think it's been the BD D7? or D3 the last ~7-8yrs that also stays in the pack and is used for occasional pits, digging stomping pads, etc. Bestest biggest baddest, I doubt it- but it will still help locate the crumpled body that's been through the strainer.

Old beacons, plastic shovels, on to the next troll topic- "I won't tour with anyone without at least a 300cm probe."

[thewon]

I've had no issues getting thru serious chunk with my lexan. Wicked sharp too. Light.

[mfa81]

10"x15"
that is the size of the Voile tele pro. I have mine since I tele'd. Advertised to move tons of snow and has lived up to it's reputation.

I have the mini version, only 1.5" smaller 13.5 x 10, d handle as well great shovel if you have limited space in the pack or are small like me

[snoqpass]

I've had no issues getting thru serious chunk with my lexan. Wicked sharp too. Light.

Doubt if it was that serious

[thewon]

Doubt if it was that serious

if it were that^^^^^^^^^^^^^^serious, you'd more than likely be recovering a death by trauma patient. or you prolly wouldn't get to them quickly enough no matter what shovel you have.

that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^guy was prolly going out of his way to try to crack it, for content's sake.

[snoqpass]

Chainsaws
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index...ow_and_ic.html

[Tri-Ungulate]

if it were that^^^^^^^^^^^^^^serious, you'd more than likely be recovering a death by trauma patient. or you prolly wouldn't get to them quickly enough no matter what shovel you have.

that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^guy was prolly going out of his way to try to crack it, for content's sake.

Yeah listen the La Rawj, he's the ultimate hardman's hard man when it comes to extreem-o skiing... unlike "that^^^^^^^^^^^^^^guy"

[LightRanger]

Yeah listen the La Rawj, he's the ultimate hardman's hard man when it comes to extreem-o skiing... unlike "that^^^^^^^^^^^^^^guy"

Yes. The "that guy" comment quite amused me as well.

[thewon]

Yes. The "that guy" comment quite amused me as well.

ooh "andrew". better now? hence, the "content" comment.

[Buster Highmen]

Here we go again.
Down that road again
Spewing and Snarling and Oh So Dumb

When dawn comes to touch my purple haze
And evening's drowsiness to carry me away
I know once again that there is nothing we can save,
So I'll pack up my things, I'll be on my way.

Yes, here I go again
Off down the road again
Thinking thoughts of days gone by.
Here I am again
Singing my songs again
Thinking and dreaming
Thoughts of blue and sky.

Swirls of giant colors swam madly through my head,
I looked around to find snow, but I just found rain instead.
It might have been a dream for all the things we said
But Ullr promised me —
Darling Ullr promised me —

Yes, and here I go again
Off down the road again
Thinking thoughts of things gone by.
Here I am again
Singing my songs again
Thinking and dreaming
Oh I feel like I could cry.

Father's gone to fight the war,
He left us here alone.
I shiver in the lonesome night
Beside the telephone
But time brings no word,
I guess he's not coming home,
It feels like the end,
It feels like the end, my friend.

Here we go again
Off down the road again
Thinking thoughts of things gone by.
Here I am again
Singing my songs again
Thinking and dreaming
Oh I feel like I could
Thinking and dreaming
Oh I feel like I could
Thinking and dreaming
Oh I feel like I could die.
Oh, yeah!

[LightRanger]

ooh "andrew". better now? hence, the "content" comment.

I see. Because somebody was paying him to break plastic shovels? Or he broke one an expedition solely to blog about it? Please clarify.

Also, here's another post (eight years old now, mind), about how shitty plastic shovels are for rescue use: https://web.archive.org/web/20130223...eleNews69.html That dude was notorious for pandering to gear companies, eh?

Edit: You're right, Buster. But sometimes it's hard to help.

[Tri-Ungulate]

I see. Because somebody was paying him to break plastic shovels? Or he broke one an expedition solely to blog about it? Please clarify.

Why should Roj bother clarifying, it's obvious he has waay more avy skillz than that "andrew" whatshizname guy who is obviously a sensationalist know-nothing industry shill

[Buster Highmen]

If I said "Don't try to teach anybody lessons", I'd be trying to teach a lesson.

Ignore, ignore, ignore. Stop the feeding.

[thewon]

eh, you guys ate it up. suckers.

sticking with my lexan. use whatever you choose. good luck!