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04-09-2015, 10:20 AM #76
what about a question at registration?
skiing is done on what? [four letters]
a single wide ski is called a what? [9 letters]Something about the wrinkle in your forehead tells me there's a fit about to get thrown
And I never hear a single word you say when you tell me not to have my fun
It's the same old shit that I ain't gonna take off anyone.
and I never had a shortage of people tryin' to warn me about the dangers I pose to myself.
Patterson Hood of the DBT's
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04-09-2015, 10:21 AM #77
That doesn't sound hard for a bot if it just goes through web address and looks for field tags. Banning characters not of the Roman Alphabet or Arabic Number System would be a good start. Basically, the list of things to include in thread titles would be shorter than the list of exclusions. That would tell you right away if it's a bot. That and some kind of Captcha. Are you using any of that at all? Look at this one at the bottom of the page.
My knowledge of this is pretty limited, but I see lots of simple pages NOT covered in spam. Perhaps moderator approval of all new posters' threads? That would be a bit hard on the admin end, but it would be about the same or less work than you're doing now. Basically a new user gets 1 posts until it is approved by a mod, much the same way new users can't posts links. Is that something you can implement in vBulletin?
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04-09-2015, 10:28 AM #78
Just signed out and clicked sign up, and there is literally nothing there as far as spambot prevention. Nothing. It doesn't matter if it's a different back end. If you have Chrome, do an Inspect Element on the text fields on your signup page. It's just basic field tags or whatever it's called. Is there at least a conformation email with a link you have to click before you can post? Can you ban the domains of the email addresses being given for signup?
I'd be upset if I actually paid for this, but I don't so just consider these strong suggestions.
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04-09-2015, 10:56 AM #79
boy somebody spammed the fuck out of you
Posting patterns would be time of day, frequency, could incorporate whois also - not necessarily just content. But yeah, ban non-english and then use keywords.
For registration, thats why you use a logic list. They're unlikely english speaking or skiers. Pretty easy to use domain knowledge to kill bots and foreign humans.
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04-09-2015, 12:42 PM #80jgb@etree Guest
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04-09-2015, 04:08 PM #81
About 10 seconds of Googling also showed that adding a field (and possibly hiding it from the user) that simply says "Leave this blank" as part of the sign up can help filter out bots.. Right now you have literally nothing to stop bots from signing up.
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04-10-2015, 10:46 AM #82
True, but based off what we've seen we really don't think these are bots unless they're really, really good and putting a lot of effort in to spam our site. We're pretty sure it's actual people physically going through the registration process, which is harder to stop.
"We're in the eye of a shiticane here Julian, and Ricky's a low shit system!" - Jim Lahey, RIP
Former Managing Editor @ TGR, forever mag.
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04-10-2015, 02:38 PM #83
Implementing a phony field will throw some of them off, but it's not a real solution. The bot could be tweaked to leave that field blank in like 2 seconds once the spammers see the change.
The nature of our registration process is something that should throw off 99.9% of the bots out there. That sign-up form you were looking at is not for vBulletin. It's for our main site. You don't know that because it's (mostly) seamless. Bots on the other hand are going to be targeted towards a specific platform (vBulletin in our case). So the bots won't click on the sign-up link like you do. They send an automated POST request to the vBulletin registration URL. Go and see what happens when you send a registration attempt directly to our vBulletin installation - denied!
Most spammers out there target a specific platform. They write a bot that registers on that platform, and then they set it loose on a list of known installations of that platform.
Second line of defense is the email validation. Yeah, having a bot clicking on a validation link is possible. But it helps.
Third line of defense is catching the actual post. I assure you that spam posts are being caught and automatically moderated.
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04-10-2015, 04:49 PM #84
boy somebody spammed the fuck out of you
Just implement a logic list or the questions like Tye1on suggested and be done with it. There's probably more time being spent talking about it than to implement the change about hundred times.
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04-10-2015, 05:33 PM #85
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04-10-2015, 06:03 PM #86
^^^THIS. Every other website does this. Make the user answer some question, ANY question that any skier would know, and I'm pretty sure the spam problem is gone.
Hell, even Earn Your Turns does this. Yes, EYT, the website so fucking primitive that he has a limit of 4 photos per post because his server is such a piece of shit that it can't handle any more than that.
If you really insist on being a "multi-sport" company or whatever, just have a drop down menu where the user selects a sport (skiing, mtb, whatever) and have it display a signup question that's related to that sport.
I've never seen these type of spam problems on any website that required a simple question to prove you were a human at signup.
The fact that you guys can't figure this out is embarrassing.
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04-10-2015, 06:33 PM #87
We have definitely spent more time talking about this than it would take to fix.
I have noticed and appreciate your prompt deletion of spam, however that is only tackling the symptom.
I also don't see why someone couldn't write a bot that sees the signup page and the forums and puts them together. It couldn't be that hard.
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04-10-2015, 07:36 PM #88
Win motherfucking win
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04-10-2015, 10:44 PM #89
Isn't that Tom Wallisch?
I didn't believe in reincarnation when I was your age either.
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04-10-2015, 11:07 PM #90
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04-12-2015, 07:28 AM #91
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04-12-2015, 08:05 AM #92
I want to know more about sand, does anyone know who I should call?
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04-25-2015, 07:06 AM #93
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04-28-2015, 05:43 AM #94jgb@etree Guest
I've been trying to stay positive and offer helpful suggestions, but this is pretty much pathetic. I hope you guys realize that you aren't the only people on the planet running vB and there are hundreds of plug ins and options - many can be implemented for FREE - that will pretty much instantly kill the daily Indian sub continent spamfest.
It's almost like you guys don't give a shit, or are just too lazy to actually do anything about it. Weaksauce, IMO.
</rant>
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04-28-2015, 07:14 AM #95
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04-28-2015, 07:46 AM #96
Oh my, the spam a thon continues. Please fixy nowy
Killing it with the 4-5 year old crowd!I rip the groomed on tele gear
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04-28-2015, 07:48 AM #97
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04-28-2015, 08:04 AM #98"When the child was a child it waited patiently for the first snow and it still does"- Van "The Man" Morrison
"I find I have already had my reward, in the doing of the thing" - Buzz Holmstrom
"THIS IS WHAT WE DO"-AML -ski on in eternal peace
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04-28-2015, 08:21 AM #99
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04-28-2015, 09:57 AM #100Good-lookin' wool
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