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11-07-2014, 09:33 AM #51
Everyone? You exaggerate. Some reasons that a few of us have whacked off tails:
1. some people like a particular twin tip/long rocker tail ski but have no use for the rear tip, which just gets in the way
2. much easier kick turns (biggest factor for me)
3. shorter (lighter) skins
4. much better picket-style ski-as-anchor
5. easier to rig A- or H-frame carry on a pack
6. much better picket-style anchor for 'mid
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11-07-2014, 10:47 AM #52Rod9301
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I ski A lot of steep stuff, including a few times I had to rappel, and I never had to make an anchor by sticking my tails in the snow.
I think this is more "I'm hardcore" fantasy.
And if you really need to make an anchor, then bury the skis, it will make a lot safer anchor.
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11-07-2014, 11:55 AM #53
I'm proud of you.
I cut tails off because a drastic twin tip can cause edge disengagement in soft snow conditions. When you set an edge in a deep carve, the twin tip on something like a square tail gotama or moment ski (or any real twin for that matter) will cause a drag force that acts nearly directly away from the center of your turning circle, or nearly perpendicular to the desired path of travel. This results in a drifting out sliding scrub instead of a hard edge set.
Additionally, kick turns, skin attachment, decreased tail floatation in deep snow, easier ski carry, using your skis to cut a rutschblock column or ski shear test column.
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11-07-2014, 01:25 PM #54
very nice job SJ . that will be the ultimate bc play/charge setup. protest = best ski ever. same width as split boarder basically. add some ski crampons to the pack. I really want to do this to a 187 protest now. maybe a carbon layup with CAST or ul with dynafits. I ,like you, find too much tail on the switchbacks sometimes troublesome and that much easier to punch the tail clip off, especially with the more centred mount. I wacked 4cm off my moment tahoes, mainly because that yr had too much twin tip even though it wasn't a rounded end. it was easier on that ski though because they weren't full edge wrapped. I cut mine with a bandsaw and smoothed any edges with a table mounted sander. I put a skin clip knotch in with a table mounted grinder. took literally seconds to do. bd skin clip is about 1 1/2 widths of the grinder wheel then sanded any corners or edges round so nothing catches. pretty similar to factory topsheet bevel. skied no different . same contact and still pivoted just no goofy jacked tail
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11-07-2014, 01:57 PM #55
Thanks grinch... that's exactly what I suspected and am happy to hear.
Goal: ski in the 2018/19 season
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11-07-2014, 02:20 PM #56Climb the mountains and get their good tidings. Natures peace will flow into you as sunshine flows into trees. The winds will blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy, while cares will drop away from you like the leaves of Autumn. - John Muir
"How long can it last? For fuck sake this isn't heroin -
suck it up princess" - XXX on getting off mj
“This is infinity here,” he said. “It could be infinity. We don’t really don’t know. But it could be. It has to be something — but it could be infinity, right?” - Trump, on the vastness of space, man
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11-07-2014, 11:25 PM #57
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11-08-2014, 12:43 AM #58
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11-13-2014, 06:34 PM #59
Getting ready to go 188 to 180 - have grinder cut off wheels and the g flex to seal the tail. There is not much to the top sheet on these bd's -
Climb the mountains and get their good tidings. Natures peace will flow into you as sunshine flows into trees. The winds will blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy, while cares will drop away from you like the leaves of Autumn. - John Muir
"How long can it last? For fuck sake this isn't heroin -
suck it up princess" - XXX on getting off mj
“This is infinity here,” he said. “It could be infinity. We don’t really don’t know. But it could be. It has to be something — but it could be infinity, right?” - Trump, on the vastness of space, man
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11-15-2014, 11:13 PM #60
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11-16-2014, 07:47 AM #61Best regards, Terry
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11-16-2014, 09:44 AM #62
About what NoPostholio is gonna whack off those BDs
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11-19-2014, 09:11 PM #63
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11-22-2014, 12:13 PM #64
Shorty / big Steve - would it make sense that new boot center mark would be approx half the distance of what was cut off, towards the tail. After cutting off approx 7 cm the ski is now of similar length to a few other pairs I own. When placing them side by side, the boot center on the other skis seems to align on the newly cut ski about 1/2 the cut distance back from factory mark. It won't be huge deal since I am prob going to put onyx's on them (range of adj for toe) just curious how you determined new mount.
Climb the mountains and get their good tidings. Natures peace will flow into you as sunshine flows into trees. The winds will blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy, while cares will drop away from you like the leaves of Autumn. - John Muir
"How long can it last? For fuck sake this isn't heroin -
suck it up princess" - XXX on getting off mj
“This is infinity here,” he said. “It could be infinity. We don’t really don’t know. But it could be. It has to be something — but it could be infinity, right?” - Trump, on the vastness of space, man
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11-22-2014, 02:47 PM #65
I don't see any cause to change the mount. The sidecut profile and apex are not changed by whacking the tail rearward of where it starts to upturn.
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11-22-2014, 03:09 PM #66Rod9301
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True on firm, it wil change a bit in powder
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11-22-2014, 04:16 PM #67Climb the mountains and get their good tidings. Natures peace will flow into you as sunshine flows into trees. The winds will blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy, while cares will drop away from you like the leaves of Autumn. - John Muir
"How long can it last? For fuck sake this isn't heroin -
suck it up princess" - XXX on getting off mj
“This is infinity here,” he said. “It could be infinity. We don’t really don’t know. But it could be. It has to be something — but it could be infinity, right?” - Trump, on the vastness of space, man
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11-22-2014, 08:17 PM #68Rod9301
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11-22-2014, 08:42 PM #69
Cutting this off will def help kick turns. 188cm to 180 cm and 8lbs (139/116/125)
Sealed up ends with gflex
Last edited by NoPostholio; 11-23-2014 at 08:54 PM.
Climb the mountains and get their good tidings. Natures peace will flow into you as sunshine flows into trees. The winds will blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy, while cares will drop away from you like the leaves of Autumn. - John Muir
"How long can it last? For fuck sake this isn't heroin -
suck it up princess" - XXX on getting off mj
“This is infinity here,” he said. “It could be infinity. We don’t really don’t know. But it could be. It has to be something — but it could be infinity, right?” - Trump, on the vastness of space, man
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11-22-2014, 09:14 PM #70
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12-04-2014, 09:56 PM #71
Moar cutting skis stoke
188 justice to a 180
Just under 8lb pair
Climb the mountains and get their good tidings. Natures peace will flow into you as sunshine flows into trees. The winds will blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy, while cares will drop away from you like the leaves of Autumn. - John Muir
"How long can it last? For fuck sake this isn't heroin -
suck it up princess" - XXX on getting off mj
“This is infinity here,” he said. “It could be infinity. We don’t really don’t know. But it could be. It has to be something — but it could be infinity, right?” - Trump, on the vastness of space, man
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12-04-2014, 09:59 PM #72
This is good stuff. Short guy thread I think.
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12-05-2014, 09:27 AM #73
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12-05-2014, 09:55 AM #74Registered User
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Ah nice to see some skis being cut, I want to cut off the twintip part of my Moment Tahoes. Luke from Moment told me I should see on the sidewall where the tail spacers are and where the core begins, but it is all black around and I cant see a difference in material or anything. Think I'll just go for it and seal.
Would you guys advice to cut at the flat part or keep the beginning of the turned up part of the tails, just to keep moving backwards possible?
Oh and I want to cut to twintip part because its impossible to push the tails in the snow and that sucks when I want to get into my tech bindings on top of a line..
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12-05-2014, 11:02 AM #75
I leave some tail rise
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