Schwalbe ProCore

**scrublover** · 08-28-2014, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn

You ever think maybe if you didn't run 20's psi on some bullshit nonstandard "tubeless ready" mishmash of rims,tires, and tape,that you wouldn't be tearing holes in your tires?
I think I'd like to do tubeless and drop a few psi on top of all the rotating weight, but the whole thing seems like such a sketchy "system".

WTF are you talking about? I run 25-30 psi on everything by my fat bike. These were TR tires. On WTB TR rims with fairly generous helpings of sealant. Taped with Stan's tape. Not that that has anything to do with rocks poking or tearing holes in the tires. FWIW, I've also destroyed a couple "legit" UST tires in similar fashion.

Fuck off.

I'm running lower psi than when I was using tubes, and have drastically far fewer flats/issues.

Jesus, maybe Creaky is right.

**euzangvsic2q3** · 08-29-2014, 03:35 AM

great sharing....

**jm2e** · 08-29-2014, 09:45 AM

Go ahead and wave that douche flag. Raise it high in the air and prance around singing your douche song loud and clear for all to hear.

**stuckathuntermtn** · 08-29-2014, 09:55 AM

Alright, douche flag pulled down. Humblest apologies. Carry on.
Where is creaky, did he finally nut his e-hardon for me, mute, ban?

**Roxtar** · 09-01-2014, 09:16 PM

I really like the idea but read somewhere that the system, as is, will work on any 21mm wide rim. (It might be 23mm, I can't remember where I read it).
I just hope they make a wider version that will work on the current crop of 35-40mm rims.

**iscariot** · 09-01-2014, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by jm2e

It's hard not to get pissed when you see sealant spitting out of a tire with no chance of it actually doing much.
/blog

You could use tubes.

**Roxtar** · 09-02-2014, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by iscariot

You could use tubes.

Yea, they never go flat.

**bsavery** · 09-02-2014, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by kidwoo

I still wish 100% of the tire making industries' efforts were going into lighter tougher casings though, instead of dedicating resources to this kind of shit and tread design ideas that were already retired over a decade ago.

A thousand times this.

**iscariot** · 09-02-2014, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by Roxtar

Yea, they never go flat.

Of course tubes can flat. He said he was pissed about seeing sealant spit out. With tubes there's no sealant.

Finstah · 09-02-2014, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by Roxtar

I really like the idea but read somewhere that the system, as is, will work on any 21mm wide rim. (It might be 23mm, I can't remember where I read it).
I just hope they make a wider version that will work on the current crop of 35-40mm rims.

Is that right?

I figured it would make more sense if it was that the internal width of the rim needed to be a minimum of 23mm. I think you may be good to go with your wide rims. Do your rims really have an internal width of 40mm? Dang...

**jm2e** · 09-03-2014, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by iscariot

Of course tubes can flat. He said he was pissed about seeing sealant spit out. With tubes there's no sealant.

Point taken

**markcjr** · 09-03-2014, 11:07 PM

Sam hill ran this in the Meribel world cup, correct? Probably better than a flat, but would still suck balls taking it apart to fix everything.

**TahoeBC** · 09-04-2014, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by travis

1Unless someone makes a mini plug kit for thinner MTB tires, I think dealing with flats will be a little harder for folks at first.

I've had good luck with this plug kit, depending on the kind of hole, it's gotten me rolling again very fast more than a few times.

http://www.amazon.com/panaracer-Tube.../dp/B001CK2DFC

**grskier** · 09-04-2014, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by TahoeBC

I've had good luck with this plug kit, depending on the kind of hole, it's gotten me rolling again very fast more than a few times.

http://www.amazon.com/panaracer-Tube.../dp/B001CK2DFC

Didn't even know that was a thing... when I was set up tubeless on my last bike, I just carried a tube in case of flats... If the first try of reseating didn't work then I just through a tube in and went on my way.

**creaky fossil** · 09-04-2014, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn

Where is creaky, did he finally nut his e-hardon for me, mute, ban?

When you spend your nights dancing with men at Amvets, you naturally think everyone else who's male has wood for you, Orca.

Keep faking that expertise, sperm receptacle!

Have you ridden more than 6x this summer? Was any of those rides longer than 45mins?

**TahoeBC** · 09-05-2014, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by grskier

Didn't even know that was a thing... when I was set up tubeless on my last bike, I just carried a tube in case of flats... If the first try of reseating didn't work then I just through a tube in and went on my way.

I still carry a tube, but when these do work it's a lot quicker than putting in a new tube and your still rolling tubeless.

**Zaeius** · 04-12-2015, 01:49 PM

Bump for Neko's procore fail at Lourdes. This system does not appear ready for prime time.

**evasive_MT** · 04-12-2015, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by Zaeius

Bump for Neko's procore fail at Lourdes. This system does not appear ready for prime time.

That came up a couple times this AM. That blue tube flapping around wasn't great press. On the other hand, I'm not Neko.

**Eluder** · 04-12-2015, 10:50 PM

I think these guys are just running too light of rims and the tire/rim interface is just not holding up to the rock impacts. Extra shit in there won't keep it together. Your small blue little inner tube holds air but the rim literally can't keep the tire on because its deformed.

**grskier** · 06-03-2015, 10:34 AM

Just saw this... bump:
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/schwalb...core-2015.html

**kidwoo** · 06-03-2015, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by rludes025

I think these guys are just running too light of rims and the tire/rim interface is just not holding up to the rock impacts. Extra shit in there won't keep it together. Your small blue little inner tube holds air but the rim literally can't keep the tire on because its deformed.

Yet another product of trying to force 27.5s into everyone's life. Dh wheels are where you see the weight increase most drastically so I'm sure teams are doing everything they can to put together light wheels. *sigh*

**jm2e** · 06-04-2015, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by Germaon Guy From Schwalbe

Neko actually suffered a destroyed rear-wheel rather than a tire fault. This section was a very tough rock-section with a big compression and a massive rock that not only Neko hit with his rear wheel but also Andrew Neethling, picking the wrong line and hitting the same rock. The impact on Neko’s wheel was so hard that the rim collapsed. ProCore might have the ability to absorb impacts which are way higher than what just a DH tire can handle, but Procore is still not completely flat-proof.

Neko can't get a fucking break. Looking forward to this weekend.

**Damian Sanders** · 06-04-2015, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by kidwoo

Yet another product of trying to force 27.5s into everyone's life. Dh wheels are where you see the weight increase most drastically so I'm sure teams are doing everything they can to put together light wheels. *sigh*

Looking forward to the multitude of 27.5" wheel failures in DH racing this year, hope no one gets hurt.

**kidwoo** · 06-04-2015, 01:35 PM

Andrew Neethling and Neko mulally on the big stage so far.

Right when we'd finally gotten to the point of rims and wheelbuilds being pretty damn good for beating the everloving shit out of them........they go and increase the leverage on the things.

I don't know about "multitude", I mean the stuff is fairly well used at this point, at least on the world cup. Half the bikes out there last year were running them. I think a bunch of teams came back and said "yeah this works but the wheels feel sluggish" so now they're cutting corners to drop weight and get them closer to the system they just abandoned.