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Thread: New tech binding Marker "King"
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12-19-2014, 10:14 AM #251
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12-19-2014, 10:58 AM #252Registered User
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Just get the Dremel out if there is.
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12-19-2014, 11:14 AM #253Registered User
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12-19-2014, 11:36 AM #254
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12-20-2014, 04:12 AM #255Registered User
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12-20-2014, 08:57 AM #256
Marker Lord (there's a CAST setup on Gearswap) or Soli Warden.
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12-20-2014, 09:06 AM #257
You all realize that like the Duke, with the Kingpin you still need to switch the lever underfoot by hand. There is no way to transition ski/tour or tour/ski without doing acrobatics or removing the ski. One more plus for Dynafit/G3/Fritschi if you ask me.
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12-20-2014, 10:14 AM #258
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12-20-2014, 12:49 PM #259
I'm running cast with freedom sl and solly. Well atomic ffg but it's basically a solly s912/914/916. Lots of adjust for the toe. Freedom sl is my hill boot and I use it with a s912ti on my protests as well. Again plenty of toe height adjust. Haven't toured on my cast set up this yr but quite a few days last yr after I sold my fat dyna fiddle ski. CAST is awesome. Dynafits I usually take off and bang snow out from under toe without thinking just habitual routine. Now same with CAST. Take ski off in transition and clean out snow with rad toe lever without thinking. Transitions minimally slower
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12-20-2014, 01:09 PM #260
Okay. I've never tried them except in the local shop on display. Then how do you go from tour to ski? Doesn't the lever underfoot need to be flipped over? That's what I couldn't get over, it just looked like the Duke lever, but a tech toe and sliding heel. I think they look rad, but I'd like to see a real demo (video perhaps Lee ) showing how to make the transitions.
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12-20-2014, 04:23 PM #261
You're correct that the lever must be moved by hand and that'll be a suggestion to put in a lip so it can be actuated by pole tip.
Even so moving the lever by hand isn't a problem. Take off the pack. Bend down and flip the lever to go from walk to ski which moves the heel piece forward of course. Stomp heel into heelpiece. Lift one foot up with ski attached and strip skin. Do the same with other ski.
You sure you're not missing something? It's simple enough to not need a video and is basically the same as a Dynafit except needing to bend down to hit the ski to tour lever
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12-20-2014, 06:14 PM #262
The Duke is a frame binding, so you can't flip the lever while you have your heel (and half of the binding) lifted. The Kingpin has no boot connection to the heel in touring mode, so you can theoretically just reach under your boot and flip the lever to scoot the heel forward.
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12-20-2014, 07:08 PM #263
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12-20-2014, 11:59 PM #264
^^^ come to think of it, possibly no more challenging than trying to fit the end of a ski pole into the old volcano style Dynafiddle heel
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12-21-2014, 09:28 AM #265Ugistered Reser
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Fret not, I use my touring soles in my SL's with my STH2's. No release issues thus far (has released when I have thought it should have, has never released when I thought it shouldn't have). Check the Freedom SL thread, other use it with bindings like the FFG and other gen STH
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12-21-2014, 10:33 AM #266custom user title?
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i think it is more or less the same for changing both directions. if the lever would be designed differently, it would probably work rather well with the pole, but it doesnt like it is now, so you basically have to use your hands (i know it is technically possible to do it with the pole, but that is so hard/annoiying that it is always quicker to get down and use a hand).
i also never got why i would want to change mode without taking the skins of anyways. i know lots of people think that is important, but i never need to change from tour to ski mode when i dont need to take my skins off anyways...
freak~[&]
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12-21-2014, 01:58 PM #267
The point is to do both without taking skis off. I have two reasons for doing this.
1 is the personal experience that toe pins are finicky and prone to problems with snow. Skinning uphill is a good way to rotate the boot and assure a solid interface. Not removing the ski at change over is a good way to guarantee you're in properly and that you won't pop out two turns into your run.
2 is a possibly misguided desire to save a few movements and thus energy. Backpack comes off, skins get ripped, binding locked down, backpack back on, away we go. No floundering around walking in pow. A few kj saved.
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12-21-2014, 02:09 PM #268
I don't take my skins off or put them on without drinking a beer. So I got a few extra kJ to burn.
I'd love to laugh at the speed queer that wants to put their skins on without taking the ski off.
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12-21-2014, 02:30 PM #269
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12-22-2014, 04:01 AM #270Registered User
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12-22-2014, 09:27 AM #271
If you arnt worrying about release or pre-release you can ski any boot in any binding...
But worrying about those two things is why we have bindings in the first place.
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12-22-2014, 09:52 AM #272
The shop I bought mine from is a 2 hour drive...they have a jig, but if there's a paper template pdf I can mount them here. Shop said there was no paper template in the box. is there a template pdf out there? google sez no so far.
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12-23-2014, 05:17 PM #273
Another question: based on wildsnow, I thought there would be a metal shelf to install on the boot heel. There's none in the box. ?
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12-23-2014, 05:50 PM #274
REI in downtown Seattle has both models in stock as of an hour ago.
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12-23-2014, 06:31 PM #275
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