magnetic valving. how do they work?

[grinch]

anyone try one of these? looks like it checks all the boxes other than 1st yr shizzz
http://www.mrpbike.com/stage

[grinch]

has white bros improved? eye candy/sweet whip alert

[iscariot]

has white bros improved? eye candy/sweet whip alert

That looks like a Latino lowrider fucked a freeride bike...with magnets.

[stuckathuntermtn]

That looks like a Latino lowrider fucked a freeride bike...with magnets.

aka Enduro as fuck

[Tye 1on]

glad we're narrowing it down here...

[stuckathuntermtn]

oh, and, MAGNETS, HOW THE FUCK DO THEY WORK? MAGIC?

[iscariot]

aka Enduro as fuck

It has no blue or green, or blue and green, aka not enduro this year. Maybe enduro will be red bikes next year.

Remember, enduro is a lifestyle colour palate choice.

[grinch]

Can has 900 mm bars. My complete kit complete w socks and lid... Neon green. I remember white Bros fork being flextime dive machines ready to eject in first corner although that was 20trs ago. Sweet bikes those Spartans

[stuckathuntermtn]

36" bars and a zero length stem.

[iscariot]

36" bars and a zero length stem.

48" bar and a reverse stem is where its at...

[frorider]

.In a nutshell, the magnetic valve works by using a magnet to cover the compression port in the damper, effectively blocking oil from passing (and allowing the fork to move). However, a significant “hit” such as a sharp-edged trail feature or high-speed event will push the oil with such force to overcome the magnetic attraction and thus lift the magnet off the port and allow oil flow once again.

Seems feasible.

[grinch]

Might of been what white bros forks of old needed

[zombinate]

I have the magnetic valving on my White Brothers Loop fork, which I have been running for a few years. The set up takes some time, figuring out where you want the magnetic threshold to be, but man is it nice having that platform give way when you need it to.

[grinch]

That's good. I think we need more competition for forks. Pike was great on the bike I tested but for how long. Just put a vengeance hlr on and I'm really liking it so far(was cheap so thought I'd try it). Interested to see how the metric, new zoke, and this mrp stack up

[grinch]

a lot of rebound clicks but solid report http://www.vitalmtb.com/product/guid...t-reviews/1849
and then there's this " As for the 15 mm axle, the only time you will ever notice a difference between 15 mm and 20 mm is when you forget to take your bike off the roof rack before pulling into your garage. The 15 mm will break in .29 s and the 20 mm will break in .299 s "

[toast2266]

15mm axles are dumb. That guy misses the point.

[creaky fossil]

a trustafarian attending Univ Wyo "with a motocross background" and an eagerness to imitate every shitty bike part review he ever read, and a parrot's ability to mime kidwoo's juvenile sense of snarky locker-room "I'm the funniest midget in the room" bullshit.

wonder what his handle is on TGR. Lindahl, maybe?

since he's only been riding bikes for a short while, 15mm seems a great innovation to him. apparently his "motocross background" didn't teach him jack shit.

I'm changing my mind. his TGR handle is stuckinsidetheAmvetsbathroom.

[grinch]

Stucky had it fairly pinned in that clip. props.
I'd prefer 20mm so I'd have a backup wheel. I just don't see the point of 15. does it save that much weight?

[Swine]

^^ 15 is fucking dumb. Every 15mm I've ridden has had noticeably more flex than 20. From the vid, dipshit reviewer can go fast and hop up and down while going straight - stuff that thing into a corner at speed and then compare it to a 20mm, you'll be able to tell the difference.

edit: Oh and this gem of disclaimer, "For full disclosure, I have not ridden the newest offerings from competing companies, so an apple to apples comparison is not possible." In other words, "My review is completely subjective".

[toast2266]

I just don't see the point of 15. does it save that much weight?

No - that's why it's so fucking dumb. The weight of the system isn't really the axle - it's the bearings in the hub. Bearings are heavy, and 20mm axles require larger diameter bearings. So when QR's fell out of favor and thru-axles started showing up on xc forks, companies wanted a smaller diameter, lighter option to put on race rigs, hence the 15mm axle standard.

But the problem is that most of the hub companies still use a bigger bearing and then offer various adapters so the hub can work with 20mm, 15mm, and QR axles. So the whole 15mm axle thing is mostly pointless; the bearings are the same size in a 20mm hub vs a 15mm hub. 15mm axles are at best marginally lighter, they're flexier, and they create all sorts of compatibility issues. So yeah, they're dumb.

As much as anything, I'd speculate that the primary reason for the invention of 15mm axles was a marketing thing - xc weenies wouldn't buy a fork with a "downhill" axle on it, so the companies needed the 15mm axle as a way to sell the forks to the weight conscious crowd.

This reviewer guy isn't reviewing his fork, he's validating his purchase.

[butterscotch]

This reviewer guy isn't reviewing his fork, he's validating his purchase.

He's running nevegals. Review is therefore invalid.

[grinch]

He's running nevegals. Review is therefore invalid.

ha, I was thinking the same thing. I did like his adjustment/setup description though. I wouldn't necessarily set my fork up as linear as his but sounds like he has a grasp. nice to know the fork adjusts like that. ie mid stroke support, can be supple initially and adjustable bottom out

[Lindahl]

The compatibility issue is what bugs me the most about 15mm. I like having a burly fork on my big bike and a small fork on my small bike. I sometimes like to run my big bike wheelset on my small bike. Having a backup wheelset for both bikes is great, also, as I can't always get around to fixing a wheelset immediately. Luckily they made 20mm Revelation lowers for a couple years and I was able to snag one.

However, I'd really love to put a Pike on that bike (weighs about the same as a 20mm Revelation!), but I can't without giving up wheelset compatibility, because it only comes in 15mm. Swapping hub endcaps is something I don't want to hassle with, and not all hubs are adaptable either (ie people dumping Havens because they need the other front hub version).

For some who went from a Fox 36 or Lyrik to a Pike, a new wheelset became an unfortunate necessary purchase.

[grinch]

exactly^. not a big prob as my lil bike will have a hope front(quick end cap change) but a hassle regardless. I can see losing one or the other end caps. mostly buffed jump trails when I'm at silver star so I will run exo's pumped rock hard and revy or elsewhere run the 729's with dh casing tires. exo's wouldn't survive at whistler. now if only there was a way to convert my lil bike rear wheel from 142 to 150 I wouldn't have to have a spare 150 rear wheel for the lighter setup/1st world problems

[Finstah]

He's running nevegals. Review is therefore invalid.

Only slightly better, but those are Excavators - not Nevegals.