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06-05-2014, 02:45 PM #101Registered User
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iscariot how is the 1x working on the Slayer?
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06-05-2014, 03:32 PM #102
Just got back from another ride. So far so good. The 42t shifts great both on and off the ring. The 16t has very occasional hang ups but it functions okay. I'm still thinking that the 16t performance will degrade faster than the rest of the cassette due to faster wear. I'm looking to put the shimano 16t on. I think that's a better long term solution both for shifting and for durability.
As far as riding performance goes, I currently have the 30t NW up front, and with the 42t out back, the gear inches are about the same as the 24t granny with the 36t rear I was running in 2x mode. I only lost 1 gear inch.
When I hit the 42t for a technical climb or a long steep gravel road slog, it performs so well that I don't notice a difference between 1x10 and the 2x setup I had before. If I end up having to push up a section now, I would have had to push up that section before.
The cool thing is that I'm actually cleaning more climbs than before. Completely psychological. I figure I have 1 less gear inch so I better really hoof it up this climb. And I end up making a lot more climbs because of the extra effort I'm putting in.
There are several times where I would like a 32t up front, as I've spun out on descents. There are times when I'd like to throw in a few strokes here and there, and when I do, there nothing to push on. Right now it's not a big problem. I have a feeling it will be more promenant once I get shuttling (next week) and start riding resorts once stuff starts to open up.
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Overall, definitely worth it so far. Long term is still to be determined.
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06-06-2014, 10:21 AM #103Registered User
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cool glad to hear. I'm keen to swap over, might wait till its time for a new chain ring though.
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06-07-2014, 09:10 AM #104
Monkeyed around with this a bit yesterday. After removing all the air in the shock, here's where I wound up under full squish...
I think that should work out okay. Adding one more link put way too much slack in it when the chain was on the 11 cog. Shifts are clean in the stand and rolling along the street. Hoping it works on the trail now.
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06-07-2014, 09:21 AM #105
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but some of the problems you've encountered are likely because of the short cage derailleur. You can't run a short cage, they don't have enough range. You can away with it with a 11-36 cassette but 11-42 is way out of it's range. You need to run at least a medium cage for consistent performance. Long might be better but I wouldn't want to do that myself.
There's nothing better than sliding down snow, and flying through the air
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06-07-2014, 07:40 PM #106
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06-07-2014, 08:21 PM #107
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06-07-2014, 08:24 PM #108
Don't know if you tried this, can't tell from the pic. So... Shift the chain up to the 40t/42t and reduce B-tension until you get rubbing (between the pully wheel and the big cog) and it won't shift. Then back it off a half turn or so (To clarify: add about a half a turn of b-tension so it is just about to rub, but isn't actually rubbing).
This will give you max chain wrap around the cassette, and will put the rear der in a better position when using the 11t cog. You might have to make a slight secondary adjustment when its on the 11t cog.Last edited by iscariot; 06-07-2014 at 08:48 PM.
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06-07-2014, 08:44 PM #109
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06-08-2014, 10:36 AM #110
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06-08-2014, 06:30 PM #111There's nothing better than sliding down snow, and flying through the air
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06-19-2014, 01:38 PM #112
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07-12-2014, 03:58 PM #113
Sooooo Im back to being stoked again. Ordered the RAD cage from one up and it definitely solved the shifting problems with my XT derailleur and the 40t add on. Fucking stoked to ride again.
The install video was pretty straightforward and went really smooth. I can see how it could be very intimidating but I was able to do it no problem and I have zero pro mechanic training.
http://www.oneupcomponents.com/products/r-a-d-cage
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07-13-2014, 04:49 PM #114
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09-01-2014, 08:24 PM #115
Anyone find that running a longer chain for extended range (using 42t) adds enough extra slack to the system in the smaller cogs that they need a front chainguide? I've tried adjusting the clutch but the shifting just gets really stiff.
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09-01-2014, 08:34 PM #116
B-tension adjust fixed that for me without the need for running a guide with a RF NW up front.
Basically dial out the b-tension until the bike won't shift into the biggest ring in the cassette because the upper pulley wheel on the derailleur is making contact with it. Then add b-tension a quarter turn at a time until the pulley wheel just clears the big cassette ring. This will move the derailleur forward relative to the rear axle, and take up the chain slack when in the smaller cogs of the cassette.Last edited by iscariot; 09-01-2014 at 09:20 PM.
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09-02-2014, 08:13 AM #117
Had X01 on my enduro and really liked it. Just got this kona process and had a bin of parts left over from another bike, so I ordered up the one-up full setup (42,16, rad cage) and really dig it for the price of upgrading an existing drivetrain. Doesn't give up too much to the 11 speed, and I like shimano shifters better so I'm stoked.
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09-02-2014, 05:51 PM #118
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09-02-2014, 07:47 PM #119
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09-02-2014, 08:26 PM #120
I wore out my XX1 ring in 300 miles of pacific northwest spring riding, the chain barely showed any wear. I replaced it with a Blackspire NW ring that seems to be more robust and has lasted much longer, thought the conditions have been better. The one draw back to a 1x system is the front ring takes all the wear.
a positive attitude will not solve all of your problems, but it may annoy enough people to make it worth the effort
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09-02-2014, 08:56 PM #121
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09-02-2014, 09:50 PM #122
I had a horrible grind noise under load, in the stand it couldn't be duplicated. I Checked everything else it could possibly be first. Finally I took the ring off to clean it and inspect it. It was obvious at the point and was more visible from the inside for some reason. The leading edges where worn in pretty bad. I think its laying around still I will go see if I can take a pic.
a positive attitude will not solve all of your problems, but it may annoy enough people to make it worth the effort
Formerly Rludes025
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09-02-2014, 11:13 PM #123
Here is from the back, way more obvious on the non wide teeth.
a positive attitude will not solve all of your problems, but it may annoy enough people to make it worth the effort
Formerly Rludes025
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09-03-2014, 08:50 AM #124Registered User
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09-03-2014, 10:09 AM #125
Cassette and chain still are great. I only use the aluminum 42t when I need to. I figure it would be the first to go, but it does have the most wrap so that helps.
a positive attitude will not solve all of your problems, but it may annoy enough people to make it worth the effort
Formerly Rludes025
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