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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeLau View Post
    You can get Transitions, Konas, Treks, Norcos, Santa Cruz dentist-used pretty inexpensively from used lists around here from people who basically rode it on gravel trails direct to their fav cappucino stands.
    This is a buddy's and basically used just like you described http://m.pinkbike.com/buysell/1544094/ if anyone out there doesn't mind getting picked on for uncool wheelsize

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeLau View Post
    You forgot eyeballs in debt thief hipster or dentist. You deny the nauseating rampant stink of overprivileged mememe NIMBYness?
    I guess I don't actually see much of it out on the trails. Sure I read it online...but when tires hit dirt I either just don't notice it or don't come across it.

    Lots of nice bikes and Tacoma's (hey wait you got a nice fancy Tacoma...) around the Sea to Sky, I don't automatically assume that people don't deserve them for one reason or another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
    yeah, I suppose the over-built ~6" travel segment is a bit thin right now. Freeride was so early 2000's. Enduro is the new hotness, and them shits have to be light, yo. Or so I've heard.
    Enduro seems to have been the boon companies were looking for. Easily accessible for the "everyman" to get into (way more phun than xcountry, not as skeery as DH) and suddenly people start thinking weight matters again (which, it kind of does with that format). But essentially zero of those yuppies who can afford the lightest will ever be competitive on any level.

    That mindset, transitioning from "freeride" to "enduro" or whatever, has the added benefit of shifting the focus from components and designs that favored longevity and plushness to lightness and quickness. Eg, "Back in my day" coils always functioned better and were cheaper than whatever stupid fucking expensive new air fork Fox would dream up, and that's what we wanted - durable and plush. But now with everyone obsessed with the Enduro format companies have taken the opportunity to refocus all consumer attention on the perceived high end that riders "need". I'm sure all of this is too generalized, I'm just cranky about 27.5 and all the other bullshit.

    You know what would sell more bikes in the US and make everyone a boatload of money? Creating viable biking options in all metropolitan areas for commuters. But, that will probably take us another 500 years or so - just before or after the desertification of the world.

    Quote Originally Posted by TomCrac View Post
    5-10K for a bike... F that. Use Craigslist carefully and it you'll crush it.
    I also like Pinkbike Buy/Sell. That's all I use that site for.
    "The world is a very puzzling place. If you're not willing to be puzzled you just become a replica of someone else's mind." Chomsky

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    x2 on CL and stinkbike.com. Used is the only way for this kid, but even with that I'm spending more than I ever dreamed I would on a mb. But, fuck it, we're dinks (dual income no kids)! So party on! Life is just expensinve these days that is for sure.

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    An overlooked issue is the lack of discount for buying a high end complete. Its actually more expensive than building your own.

    Take everyone's favorite $10k Bronson

    $2800 Enves
    $2800 Frame
    $1300 XX1
    $850 Fork and headset
    $500 Brakes and rotors
    $300 Reverb
    $120 in rubber
    $200 in bars/stem/grips
    $50 saddle

    $8720?

    What the fuck?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    Same goes for today's SLX (I assume X7/X9 level stuff too, but I haven't ridden any).
    Starting this year, even Deore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickwm21 View Post
    An overlooked issue is the lack of discount for buying a high end complete. Its actually more expensive than building your own.

    Take everyone's favorite $10k Bronson

    $2800 Enves
    $2800 Frame
    $1300 XX1
    $850 Fork and headset
    $500 Brakes and rotors
    $300 Reverb
    $120 in rubber
    $200 in bars/stem/grips
    $50 saddle

    $8720?

    What the fuck?
    Good Point. I just built up a small carbon bronson for my wife with mostly the same parts as SC's spx kit for $3800. Few slightly used parts, most new. Still a fucking stupid amount to spend on a bike. Fucking 1st World problems for sure.

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    This thread reminds me that someone needs to buy my bike..... It's too nice to just keep hanging out on Sprocket Rockets. Good deal, too!!
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  9. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin267 View Post
    Yeah, nothing wrong with that though.. if a $8000+ bike gets you stoked to ride that's cool
    Other than turning product development towards what jewelry the brohlerites want and only what they want, sure....



    swine - bike commuting seems to have an inverse relation between price and days commuted. most of the US bikes get trashed commuting; theres plenty of cheap commuter frames out there. the expensive upsold "commuter bike" that sits in the Portland/Vancouver/Seattle home is just a different outfit for the same douchebag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Conway View Post
    swine - bike commuting seems to have an inverse relation between price and days commuted. most of the US bikes get trashed commuting; theres plenty of cheap commuter frames out there. the expensive upsold "commuter bike" that sits in the Portland/Vancouver/Seattle home is just a different outfit for the same douchebag.
    Yeah, I know I went off comparing apples and oranges a bit. My perspective is all skewed because I just spent time working in Copenhagen recently. But what if everyone commuted like that here, selling millions of cheap commuter bikes wouldn't be bad for business, right? And then there would be many more repair shops and jobs. And then, rainbows and unicorns!
    "The world is a very puzzling place. If you're not willing to be puzzled you just become a replica of someone else's mind." Chomsky

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin267 View Post
    This is a buddy's and basically used just like you described http://m.pinkbike.com/buysell/1544094/ if anyone out there doesn't mind getting picked on for uncool wheelsize
    Fak, I'd ride that uncool wheelsize all day long. At a towering 5'8", those cool wheel sizes just don't work for me anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swine View Post
    And then, rainbows and unicorns!
    I thought that's what 27.5 wheels were bringing us? The brandnew wheel all the yuppies needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Conway View Post
    I thought that's what 27.5 wheels were bringing us? The brandnew wheel all the yuppies needed.
    27.5 is so winter 2014.

    559 enduro is here.
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    "The world is a very puzzling place. If you're not willing to be puzzled you just become a replica of someone else's mind." Chomsky

    "This system make of us slaves. Without dignity. Without depth. No? With a devil in our pocket. This incredible money in our pocket. This money. This shit. This nothing. This paper who have nothing inside." Jodorowsky

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swine View Post
    Yeah, I know I went off comparing apples and oranges a bit. My perspective is all skewed because I just spent time working in Copenhagen recently. But what if everyone commuted like that here, selling millions of cheap commuter bikes wouldn't be bad for business, right? And then there would be many more repair shops and jobs. And then, rainbows and unicorns!
    Some US cities are starting to play catch-up with the bike commuting thing. Mostly on the coasts, though. Land use patterns here in flyover country are way too fucked up and sprawly for it to become a good option soon, but striping bike lanes and paving some bike paths is a hell of a lot cheaper than building a new rail line. I expect we'll see slow progress on that front. There's definitely money to be made there for whoever makes the best $500 1x10 commuter bike.

    Also:
    Know what would be awesome? A service like craigslist or pinkbike classifieds that lets you pay with a credit card and escrow account and transfers the cash out of the escrow account when you meet at the LBS or coffee shop to hand over the goods. Know when that service gets launched? This summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirshredalot View Post
    Some US cities are starting to play catch-up with the bike commuting thing. Mostly on the coasts, though. Land use patterns here in flyover country are way too fucked up and sprawly for it to become a good option soon, but striping bike lanes and paving some bike paths is a hell of a lot cheaper than building a new rail line. I expect we'll see slow progress on that front. There's definitely money to be made there for whoever makes the best $500 1x10 commuter bike.
    I didn't realize that I needed my town/village/city to have "caught up to the bike commuting thing" before I could ride my bike for errands, and for to/from the job. How does that work, anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirshredalot View Post
    Know what would be awesome? A service like craigslist or pinkbike classifieds that lets you pay with a credit card and escrow account and transfers the cash out of the escrow account when you meet at the LBS or coffee shop to hand over the goods. Know when that service gets launched? This summer.
    Exists: GearTrade.com

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    i blame global warming and hipsters
    it started with commuter bikes, which turned into fixies
    then they tried mtb, we get 29er'ing
    onto lift served, flow trails are born
    racing sounds fun, hello enduro

    next will be pump track strava KOM's
    ciggs, pbr, and cutoffs will be replaced by chris king, cliff bars, and spandex
    as soon as they start advertising calories burned per lap all will be lost...

    just you wait and see!

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    If you're looking for a little more security in used gear sales, TGR's panjo marketplace runs through Paypal: https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/classifieds.php

    Not sure if it offers any kind of escrow service, though...
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    And panjo gets rave reviews from TGR users!

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    Seriously, does anyone use Panjo? I can't stand the fucking format and go straight to list view.
    "The world is a very puzzling place. If you're not willing to be puzzled you just become a replica of someone else's mind." Chomsky

    "This system make of us slaves. Without dignity. Without depth. No? With a devil in our pocket. This incredible money in our pocket. This money. This shit. This nothing. This paper who have nothing inside." Jodorowsky

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirshredalot View Post
    Also:
    Know what would be awesome? A service like craigslist or pinkbike classifieds that lets you pay with a credit card and escrow account and transfers the cash out of the escrow account when you meet at the LBS or coffee shop to hand over the goods. Know when that service gets launched? This summer.
    How is that awesome? When dealing with people I don't know, I prefer cash over that method every single time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smmokan View Post
    How is that awesome? When dealing with people I don't know, I prefer cash over that method every single time.
    Maybe folks are nervous about meeting strangers with a large sum of cash in their pockets? I've definitely had some sketchy CL transactions - bought a pair of skis in an empty restaurant parking lot off Federal Ave in Denver on a Sunday morning once, had my wife waiting in the car with her phone ready to dial 911 if anything went down (turned out that the seller's girlfriend's parents owned the restaurant, hence the choice of meeting place).
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    Quote Originally Posted by smmokan View Post
    How is that awesome? When dealing with people I don't know, I prefer cash over that method every single time.
    Because presumably shredsalot gets to be a muckymuck in said fine startup? < shrug > a new startup won't change the fucked up used gear market that makes selling only the latest and greatest the only thing worth your time.

    maybe you should have setup the meeting in a place with foot traffic instead of being a fucking idiot pegleg? google streetview + google? I mean, that's quicker than fucking around with some escrow service and giving them a cut for the extra hassle.

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    taking a cut out of something that doesn't need an intermediary is as American as Apple Pie, Mom, and Chevrolet

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