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  1. #26
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    Read that they are just going to leave it closed for the rest of the season.

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    troller on the left is a babe
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    Vintage High Campbell warning sign from the archives. RIP #6.

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  4. #29
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    It will be interesting to see if the replacement lift's base unit and Tower 1 will be located in the same spot or whether Kircher will move it to a safer location.

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    Interesting, are they talking about the bowl that slid and surrounding terrain all being double black diamond and "like nothing you've skied before"? That sure doesn't look very intimidating.

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  6. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    Note the expression of Kim in the middle:
    Guess which one threw the bomb???
    "True love is much easier to find with a helicopter"

  7. #32
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    Guess which two don't own a ski resort that just had a lift demolished unintentionally.

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    The three lovely ladies above gave a great speech yesterday at the NSAW event. They broke down the snowpack history and the events leading up to the big slide. Very cool for the snow nerds.

  9. #34
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    So did anyone ask THE QUESTION.

    "if you had to do it over again would you have sat on the area and not performed Hazard Mitigation?"
    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

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  10. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunion View Post
    So did anyone ask THE QUESTION.

    "if you had to do it over again would you have sat on the area and not performed Hazard Mitigation?"
    Having actually discussed that question a few times their consensus seems to be that they're glad they didn't sit on the hazard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PNWbrit View Post
    Having actually discussed that question a few times their consensus seems to be that they're glad they didn't sit on the hazard.
    classic Dick Cheney response.
    Move upside and let the man go through...

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    PNWbrit just wants Kim to sit on his hazard.
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  13. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunion View Post
    So did anyone ask THE QUESTION.

    "if you had to do it over again would you have sat on the area and not performed Hazard Mitigation?"
    Someone did ask and the answer was they would follow the same process again and drop the bombs. Someone also asked if their insurer paid for the new lift and the answer was "not as much as we wanted". They also said the debris traveled 600' further than any previous event at that location. And the final question was - did the new lift get installed in the exact same location? Answer was yes as well. Pretty good presentation on conditions leading up to the event for us laymen.

    The photos remind me of that big wet slide under the old Alpine lift at Bridger a few years ago. I think that was caused by a rain storm and triggered naturally though.

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    What did they replace it with? Another double or an improvement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by neufox47 View Post
    Another double or an improvement?
    A new heavier and less troublesome double.

    Cable was spliced this weekend.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronco View Post
    And the final question was - did the new lift get installed in the exact same location?
    I'd imagine that moving it would involve significant and lengthy permitting and enviro-mentally issues.
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    Well, no one is moving their houses at the base of Mount Jumbo just because a once-every-100-years human triggered slide came down.
    Installing a lift line involves all kinds of stuff from purchasing and installing the equipment, planning route, yeah, probably have to do an environmental impact study, and the ground where each of the towers is going to go has to be sampled and studied to make sure it can support what's going in. It would take years to put something in a different place. Once also has to assume that there is a strong likelihood that it was put in a very optimal place, and just moving it somewhere else is not an easy answer traffic flow wise.

    And of course they would do the same thing over again. Are they supposed to just wait till it happens with dozens of skiers on it?

    Ditto on the "dangerous" terrain thing. Looks like a sweet bowl. That's probably why it broke so huge. Optimal conditions and such. A bunch of rocky crags wouldn't be able to develop nearly as big a slab.
    No longer stuck.

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    Just an uneducated guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PNWbrit View Post
    A new heavier and less troublesome double.

    Cable was spliced this weekend.

    I'd imagine that moving it would involve significant and lengthy permitting and enviro-mentally issues.
    Unless they had a big deductible, exclusions, or limit issues, I would think that insurance would have picked pretty much everything up. Their response is cryptic enough that it could mean they paid everything except a 20k deductible.

    Additional expenses to move the lift would almost certainly have been excluded.

    Im pretty impressed that they have it back up and running for this season.

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    Insurance did pick it up.
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