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Thread: Knuckledraggers sue Alta
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01-20-2014, 07:46 AM #151
Snowboarders, you won the damn Ski hill war so if a few places will never surrender then let it be.
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01-20-2014, 08:37 AM #152
The only snowboarders I see out there these days are rich old fat dudes.
Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature... Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure or nothing. -Helen Keller
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01-20-2014, 08:53 AM #153"When the child was a child it waited patiently for the first snow and it still does"- Van "The Man" Morrison
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01-20-2014, 09:13 AM #154
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01-20-2014, 09:13 AM #155trenchman
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01-20-2014, 09:44 AM #156Registered User
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01-20-2014, 10:35 AM #157
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01-20-2014, 10:36 AM #158
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01-20-2014, 01:37 PM #159Registered User
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Yes, First World problems indeed! And Alta probably wins this publicity war.
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01-20-2014, 02:31 PM #160
there are bigger issues in the industry than Alta's exclusionary practices
right now in Aspen there are people walking about in last years fashion and gear. the humanity of it all. there should be a lawriser4 - Ignore me! Please!
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01-20-2014, 03:19 PM #161I ski because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things.
"This deep snow makes my skis stupid!"
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01-20-2014, 08:17 PM #162
speaking lawsuits and snowboarders take a look at this
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01-21-2014, 01:08 AM #163Chowder Lover
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This attitude used to piss me off, until I realized it's true. There's plenty of snowboarders that can ride as good as the best skiers. There's also plenty of skiers that suck as bad as the worst boarders. The difference is that snowboarding is easier on really tight steep stuff so the shitty boarders can go up there, slide slip it and say they rode it whereas you wont find many skiers that should be on blue runs skiing 40 degree chutes. It's not that snowboards suck, it's that sucky snowboarders can get themselves into good terrain without killing themselves.
I went to the dark side in 90 when I was 12 years old. Have since gone even darker and exclusively tele. I still have my board and will bust it out again one of these days. It won't be the first day Alta allows snowboarders though, those wack jobs will be killing anyone on a board. Many of the traverses aren't too bad but stop just once and you'll have a ski pole up your rectum so far it'll tickle your tonsils. Probably take a few years, maybe generations, for things to calm down. In fact that's probably the real reason they will never allow boards.
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01-21-2014, 08:48 AM #164
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01-21-2014, 09:20 AM #165
Its not really about the traversing... they just plain don't like snowboarders and don't want the associated shit show hanging around. Can you blame them!?
Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature... Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure or nothing. -Helen Keller
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01-21-2014, 09:26 AM #166
What % of people snow board? I think it was once around 35%. Now it seems to have dropped significantly. Any of you industry insiders have he numbers handy?
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01-21-2014, 09:53 AM #167
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01-21-2014, 12:39 PM #168observing free range rude
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It's a few years old, but at least gives a frame of reference.
http://www.skiareacitizens.com/Demog...rends_2008.pdf
if someone has a UofU id and can access the matierial, it looks like the U has some good data. http://campusguides.lib.utah.edu/con...127&sid=649229
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01-22-2014, 12:18 AM #169
If ski resorts didn't regulate the types of traffic at their resort the places would look like a red bull flutag event with people on the most questionable shit imaginable. If a resort has the right to deny people riding couches down the mountain drinking beers with swords for ski poles then of course they also have the right to say no snowboards.
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01-22-2014, 01:51 PM #170
this seems like a problem solver
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01-23-2014, 03:32 PM #171Registered User
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more loser hate!!!!
http://www.adventure-journal.com/201...comment-635865
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01-23-2014, 04:46 PM #172Here’s a thought. Perhaps Alta’s dogmatic refusal to allow snowboards should be seen less as a repudiation of snowboarding and more as a celebration of skiing. Perhaps it should be seen as an attempt to recognize how special skiing is, how rare, and in its own way, how fragile, without any disregard for any other sport.
And maybe, instead of these riders taking offense at Alta’s policy, they could instead try to find some respect for a group of people who love skiing so much they’ve devoted their lives to it, to nurturing and preserving it, while change swirls everywhere else, not because they don’t like other sports but because they love skiing itself so much. And maybe, instead of hiring lawyers and suing, the plaintiffs should learn to ski, should learn to meet Alta on its own terms instead of trying to bend it to theirs. Maybe then they’d understand. Maybe.riser4 - Ignore me! Please!
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01-23-2014, 05:16 PM #173Registered User
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Copy and paste of one of the comments:
"Here’s a thought. Perhaps [the Klan's] dogmatic refusal to allow [blacks] should be seen less as a repudiation of [blacks] and more as a celebration of [whites]. Perhaps it should be seen as an attempt to recognize how special [white people are], how rare, and in its own way, how fragile, without any disregard for any other [race]."
Thought it was pretty good... although comparing this to race equality is a stretch...
One thing that gets me is they will bust your balls even on a split board. So you can ride the mtn if you hike it but you can't get on the lift with a odd looking pair of skis?
"The lawsuit notes that Alden, Hicken and Varga purchased tickets at Alta and attempted to board the Collins lift with their snowboards. They were escorted away from the lift by ski patrol. Alden boarded a lift with a split board, but was grabbed by ski patrol at the top of the lift."
Wonder if they usually allow spit boards?
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01-23-2014, 06:15 PM #174observing free range rude
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"while change swirls everywhere else"
change = elimination of discriminatory practices?
Which is more defensible?
Refusing to let snowboarders ride, which is a legal activity, on land they own.
or
Getting pissed that the best mountain in the state bans you because the wood plank on your feet isn't cut in two?
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01-23-2014, 06:39 PM #175
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