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  1. #151
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    Snowboarders, you won the damn Ski hill war so if a few places will never surrender then let it be.
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    The only snowboarders I see out there these days are rich old fat dudes.
    Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature... Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure or nothing. -Helen Keller

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    Quote Originally Posted by powder11 View Post
    The only snowboarders I see out there these days are rich old fat dudes.
    Don't call ride shit or sad verse rich
    "When the child was a child it waited patiently for the first snow and it still does"- Van "The Man" Morrison
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    Quote Originally Posted by smuggs View Post
    It snowed alot more when alta didn't have a facebook or instagram.
    I think you're on to something here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by powder11 View Post
    The only snowboarders I see out there these days are rich old fat dudes.
    go find a steeper hill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Hoar View Post
    I think you're on to something here...
    Thank for typing you're and not your.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skifishbum View Post
    Don't call ride shit or sad verse rich
    And don't call Advres old!
    Now SFB, OTOH....ancient
    Forum Cross Pollinator, gratuitously strident

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbinder View Post
    Thank for typing you're and not your.
    I was once gang raped by a group of grammar nazis... it was awkward. I learned my lesson.

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    Yes, First World problems indeed! And Alta probably wins this publicity war.

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    there are bigger issues in the industry than Alta's exclusionary practices
    right now in Aspen there are people walking about in last years fashion and gear. the humanity of it all. there should be a law
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny Satch View Post
    there are bigger issues in the industry than Alta's exclusionary practices
    right now in Aspen there are people walking about in last years fashion and gear. the humanity of it all. there should be a law
    Unbelieveable! Still poor people in Aspen even after how well the stock market performed last year? The fools probably stayed in their money market funds. Well, they deserve what they get.
    I ski because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things.

    "This deep snow makes my skis stupid!"

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    speaking lawsuits and snowboarders take a look at this
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsnowjoke View Post
    ^^^ THIS.

    And charging through the narrow trees or approaching the top of a chute, it's always nice to see that a side-slipping boarder got there first and "groomed" the powder for you. It's lame. Pre-snowboarding you never used to see this. If a skier is/was up in challenging terrain of this type they will at least try to make a few turns, preserving the pow. Maybe not out of conscientious demeanor, but because it's just easier to turn skis in pow than slip 'em. The board must be easier to slip, resulting in the overall and consistent trashing and thrashing of some great lines.

    Boarders are here to stay, so I don't have any problem nor heartburn sharing the home hill with them. Ain't got time for the Stay Off My Lawn! mentality. On the flip side, if an area is boardless I can see why it would want to remain so.
    This attitude used to piss me off, until I realized it's true. There's plenty of snowboarders that can ride as good as the best skiers. There's also plenty of skiers that suck as bad as the worst boarders. The difference is that snowboarding is easier on really tight steep stuff so the shitty boarders can go up there, slide slip it and say they rode it whereas you wont find many skiers that should be on blue runs skiing 40 degree chutes. It's not that snowboards suck, it's that sucky snowboarders can get themselves into good terrain without killing themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cono Este View Post
    We need to expose the skiers in here who in the early nineties gave up and went to the dark side.

    You guys can't hide forever.
    I went to the dark side in 90 when I was 12 years old. Have since gone even darker and exclusively tele. I still have my board and will bust it out again one of these days. It won't be the first day Alta allows snowboarders though, those wack jobs will be killing anyone on a board. Many of the traverses aren't too bad but stop just once and you'll have a ski pole up your rectum so far it'll tickle your tonsils. Probably take a few years, maybe generations, for things to calm down. In fact that's probably the real reason they will never allow boards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    Not if you are Rick James, BITCH!
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    Its not really about the traversing... they just plain don't like snowboarders and don't want the associated shit show hanging around. Can you blame them!?
    Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature... Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure or nothing. -Helen Keller

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    What % of people snow board? I think it was once around 35%. Now it seems to have dropped significantly. Any of you industry insiders have he numbers handy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny Satch View Post
    there are bigger issues in the industry than Alta's exclusionary practices
    right now in Aspen there are people walking about in last years fashion and gear. the humanity of it all. there should be a law
    This.


    I laughed.

    Focus , people!
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    It's a few years old, but at least gives a frame of reference.

    http://www.skiareacitizens.com/Demog...rends_2008.pdf

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    if someone has a UofU id and can access the matierial, it looks like the U has some good data. http://campusguides.lib.utah.edu/con...127&sid=649229

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    If ski resorts didn't regulate the types of traffic at their resort the places would look like a red bull flutag event with people on the most questionable shit imaginable. If a resort has the right to deny people riding couches down the mountain drinking beers with swords for ski poles then of course they also have the right to say no snowboards.

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    this seems like a problem solver

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    Here’s a thought. Perhaps Alta’s dogmatic refusal to allow snowboards should be seen less as a repudiation of snowboarding and more as a celebration of skiing. Perhaps it should be seen as an attempt to recognize how special skiing is, how rare, and in its own way, how fragile, without any disregard for any other sport.

    And maybe, instead of these riders taking offense at Alta’s policy, they could instead try to find some respect for a group of people who love skiing so much they’ve devoted their lives to it, to nurturing and preserving it, while change swirls everywhere else, not because they don’t like other sports but because they love skiing itself so much. And maybe, instead of hiring lawyers and suing, the plaintiffs should learn to ski, should learn to meet Alta on its own terms instead of trying to bend it to theirs. Maybe then they’d understand. Maybe.
    this is bang on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaag Master View Post
    Copy and paste of one of the comments:

    "Here’s a thought. Perhaps [the Klan's] dogmatic refusal to allow [blacks] should be seen less as a repudiation of [blacks] and more as a celebration of [whites]. Perhaps it should be seen as an attempt to recognize how special [white people are], how rare, and in its own way, how fragile, without any disregard for any other [race]."

    Thought it was pretty good... although comparing this to race equality is a stretch...

    One thing that gets me is they will bust your balls even on a split board. So you can ride the mtn if you hike it but you can't get on the lift with a odd looking pair of skis?

    "The lawsuit notes that Alden, Hicken and Varga purchased tickets at Alta and attempted to board the Collins lift with their snowboards. They were escorted away from the lift by ski patrol. Alden boarded a lift with a split board, but was grabbed by ski patrol at the top of the lift."

    Wonder if they usually allow spit boards?

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    "while change swirls everywhere else"

    change = elimination of discriminatory practices?

    Which is more defensible?

    Refusing to let snowboarders ride, which is a legal activity, on land they own.

    or

    Getting pissed that the best mountain in the state bans you because the wood plank on your feet isn't cut in two?

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    Just get over it...
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