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  1. #351
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    Quote Originally Posted by iggyskier View Post
    27.3m in a 186cm (currently 30.5m in a 191cm). Same bi-radius type of design we do on all of our directional skis, so it is actually tighter than that in the tips, straight than that in the tail. Similar flex to the wren. A bit less tip taper length than you have on the current wren, so the effective edge is still 155cm so they won't ski short, even with the drop in size (EE on the 191cm wren was 158.5). I'm very excited for it, as in recently years even I have been thinking the 191cm Wren is a bit on the long side (my 23 year-old-self is shaking his head at this decision, but alas, it is what it is).
    I was hoping for 29m, but I'll take that. Sign me up, I want a pair.

  2. #352
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    Quote Originally Posted by iggyskier View Post
    27.3m in a 186cm (currently 30.5m in a 191cm). Same bi-radius type of design we do on all of our directional skis, so it is actually tighter than that in the tips, straight than that in the tail. Similar flex to the wren. A bit less tip taper length than you have on the current wren, so the effective edge is still 155cm so they won't ski short, even with the drop in size (EE on the 191cm wren was 158.5). I'm very excited for it, as in recently years even I have been thinking the 191cm Wren is a bit on the long side (my 23 year-old-self is shaking his head at this decision, but alas, it is what it is).
    Note to self: horde 191 Wrens and Viciks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by selle View Post
    Blizzard Spur - supposed to be 146-125-134, full rocker, "Carbon Flipcore"

    Attachment 148879
    Looks kinda like a fatter EHP
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  4. #354
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    Short clip on the Blizzard Spur and Technica. In Swedish but you can see the rocker profile. The guy says it is full woodcore, isocore to save weight, bamboo and beech(?). Pure powderski.
    http://www.freeride.se/video/47516/

  5. #355
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    Sweet looking ski. If only they would use more durable bases.

  6. #356
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caucasian Asian View Post
    Looks kinda like a fatter EHP
    Looks kinda like a CD0...
    simen@downskis.com DOWN SKIS

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    Can the mods or OP pretty please edit a question mark into the thread title? It's driving me insane.
    Last edited by Hypnotoad; 01-21-2014 at 06:25 PM.

  8. #358
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    Quote Originally Posted by ego7man View Post
    Vicik and Tychoon sort of meet in the middle. 102 underfoot, slightly smaller turn radius.
    Scott - I assume this will be directional with some tail rocker? Definitely like the sound of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeJ View Post
    Scott - I assume this will be directional with some tail rocker? Definitely like the sound of it.
    Same tail rocker as on the current Vicik. We are really happy with that tail rocker design.
    Seriously, this can’t turn into yet another ON3P thread....

  10. #360
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    I have been skiing my 191 Billy Goat franken tour models I got from you in the prototype sale you did Iggy.

    Full review coming after some actual soft snow skiing.

    But I can't believe you would drop this ski, it is amazing.

    Although I guess my ski is a bit more like the regular BG which is staying.

  11. #361
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaliBrit View Post
    I have been skiing my 191 Billy Goat franken tour models I got from you in the prototype sale you did Iggy.

    Full review coming after some actual soft snow skiing.

    But I can't believe you would drop this ski, it is amazing.

    Although I guess my ski is a bit more like the regular BG which is staying.
    LIke I said above...I could still change my mind. If I did save a tour-variant from the chopping block, the BG would be the only one. That said, there is some stuff on the drawing board for 15/16 that would potentially bridge the gap between the two. More importantly, for 14/15, the Steeple 112 is based off of the Billy Goat platform, just a bit skinnier underfoot and with a shorten tail spacer modified to hold a skin, so I think those looking for a RES-touring ski are going to be happy with it as is.

    Glad you are liking the BGs! Still my favorite skis ever.
    Seriously, this can’t turn into yet another ON3P thread....

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    Don't kill the cash cow man!

    Still digging my BG 1911 tour sticks. The Tycoons are getting the most use so far this year and my Viciks are just waiting for better conditions(now) to push the machloony envelope. Sold my 09 186 BGs so I may have to replace it.
    watch out for snakes

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    Love the idea of a 112mm tour BG-like shape (better than a 118mm in my opinion). A 102 sounds interesting too - curious if it would satisfy my float needs. Any ideas on expected/target weight?

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    I have to admit with a 112 RES billy goat like ski then you wouldn't really need the BG tour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iggyskier View Post
    Glad you are liking the BGs! Still my favorite skis ever.
    Really love my 191s too. They are the only skis in my basement that I feel like I couldn't do without (and I own a lot of skis).

    That said, this unholy union of the vicik and tychoon is piquing my interest. I've had some seller's remorse over selling my viciks.

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    nice looking lineup
    watch out for snakes

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    Quote Originally Posted by rachi View Post
    I'm guessing the blue sticks are next year's Rens?
    The Ravens look purrty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcat Sig View Post
    I'm guessing the blue sticks are next year's Rens?
    The Ravens look purrty.
    The blue and white skis are the next Hoji and the renegades are the third pair from the left, black and red.

    I want all of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brown9 View Post
    The blue and white skis are the next Hoji and the renegades are the third pair from the left, black and red.

    I want all of them.
    Sweet.

    The third pair from the right looks like the new Devastator.

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    hoji raven renegade(it's write on the left ski) YLE

    renegade turbo hoji raven

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    I would love a lighter Hoji. Exact same shape, just lighter.

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    My Mini review of the new DPS Wailer 105 http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...91#post4163991
    If ski companies didn't make new skis every year I wouldn't have to get new skis every year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brown9 View Post
    The blue and white skis are the next Hoji and the renegades are the third pair from the left, black and red.

    I want all of them.
    I like the new Hoji and Raven graphics, not feeling the Renegade although maybe it's better in person. Still prefer the OG Renegade (biased maybe) followed by the owl topsheet.

    Waiting for final specs on the Raven still (weight) as I am eyeing it for my first tech touring setup and want a do-it-all ski. On the one hand I want to go as light as possible, on the other I want to have some float in powder and being 5'10 200lbs naked not sure ~123-102-1xx @ 184 will do it for me. Hoji 187 weighs essentially the same as my Renegade 186, but at least I'd save a ton of weight on new boots/bindings and have a more versatile ski for hard snow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gramboh View Post
    Hoji 187 weighs essentially the same as my Renegade 186
    Hoji is spec'd at 1.2# lighter per pair than the Ren, which is definitely noticeable. Though, I'm surprised the Hoji isn't lighter—the pair I skied certainly *felt* lighter. Wish they made the Hoji in the same construction as the Ren at those weights!

    I'm 35# lighter than you, but I found the K2 Hardside (98 underfoot) to be a great do-it-all ski my first season in the bc. I wouldn't think you'd *need* anything wider. Besides, if it's really nuking, you'll probably want to ride lifts.
    "Alpine rock and steep, deep powder are what I seek, and I will always find solace there." - Bean Bowers

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