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  1. #251
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beyond View Post
    Y'know Blizzard raided Volkl for personnel back when it started up again, and Goats were notorious for becoming incrementally stiffer every couple of years since 2004, 15% per topsheet was what one Volkl guy told me. Maybe it's a Volkl disease, and infected Blizzard.
    It was more from athlete influence. Some of the European athletes were asking for stiffer skis which made it 's way subtly into production. The original 193 Cochise proto that Arne gave his thumbs up to was actually quite soft.

    I busted my leg into a lot of pieces on the 196 Bodacious 3 years ago and swore I'd never ski it again but I sacked up and skied the new one on Friday at Alta and had a blast. It was variable to say the least and it was so much more fun than the old one. Old ski was kind if one dimensional. Just ass kicking if you weren't on your game . New one is more fun without losing the top end.
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  2. #252
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    Quote Originally Posted by werdswerf View Post
    Just found this article about next year's crop of lightweight touring skis:
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    "One of the lightest skis ever to hit the skin track - at 1,200 grams per ski - is La Sportiva's Vapor Nano (130/103/120 mm; MSRP $1,200). Made in the U.S. using a carbon-nanotube technology originally developed for the aerospace industry, the skis have an aggressively rockered tip, flat tail, and enough stability to handle the most technical lines."
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    "A narrower, lighter, and even nimbler version of the much-laded V8 ski introduced last winter, Voile's V6 (122/100/107 mm; MSRP $625) has the same full-length aspen core, carbon fiber/fiberglass construction, and buyer-friendly price."
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    "Thanks to the capabilities of its new dedicated factory, Black Diamond can crank out more carbon-construction skis, including the Carbon Convert (133/105/117 mm, MSRP $900), a backcountry-focused model that shaves 380 grams per pair off the non-carbon Convert, weighing in at 1,460 grams per ski."
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    "Volkl's V-Werks BMT was designed for big mountain touring, and includes elements like carbon-fiber construction, an air-channeled wood core, full rocker, and early-taper tip drawn from the brand's V-Werks and powder skis. The three models (MSRP $1,275) differ by waist width: 94, 109, and 122."
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    Those were the four that caught my eye. Article also talks about other skis already mentioned in this thread.
    Are all the good skiers just getting richer and fatter?

    I'm going to do everything I can to walk uphill with 11lbs worth of WOODEN skis under my feet for as long as I possibly can.

  3. #253
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobsdesk View Post
    Are all the good skiers just getting richer and fatter?

    I'm going to do everything I can to walk uphill with 11lbs worth of WOODEN skis under my feet for as long as I possibly can.
    Can't fight progress, man. We're all gonna be sliding around on carbon nanotoobs in a few years.

  4. #254
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    Oh, what sizes for the Cham 117? Did you say a little tail rocker?
    Actually, kinda disappointed to hear about no metal. Not even 1 sheet?
    No longer stuck.

  5. #255
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    DPS skis with metal.

  6. #256
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    Quote Originally Posted by chriscarleton View Post
    DPS skis with metal.
    Also a replacement to the W105. Less rocker than the RP112, more traditional but still some rocker.

  7. #257
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    Quote Originally Posted by shirk View Post
    Also a replacement to the W105. Less rocker than the RP112, more traditional but still some rocker.
    I'm confused. Don't the Pure 3 skis have metal in them already? And doesn't that ski sound like w99?

  8. #258
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    Salomon: full Din and AT compatibility, not just WTR ....

  9. #259
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsavery View Post
    And doesn't that ski sound like w99?
    I didn't put a pair back to back to compare the rocker profile to the W99 but I think it's different.

  10. #260
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brianskis View Post
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    Salomon: full Din and AT compatibility, not just WTR ....
    Oh!
    Mount pattern info??

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    Moment has some mental graphics for next year...mullet rocker on more skis...additions to lineup...

    I'd love to share more but I'm sure the internet will do that for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shirk View Post
    Also a replacement to the W105. Less rocker than the RP112, more traditional but still some rocker.
    Yes, new 105 is the rumor...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brianskis View Post
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    Salomon: full Din and AT compatibility, not just WTR ....
    Nice. That needed to happen. That has CAST system written all over it.

    Does the guardian get full AT compatibility too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brianskis View Post

    Salomon: full Din and AT compatibility, not just WTR ....
    Are they calling is the "Warden", the tennis ball yellow binding I had seen on Cody and others from Swatch must have been the STH2 then

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    So, as I'm hearing it from the boys in the know, the new 105 under foot ski from DPS is more RC112 or XXL ish than the W112 or W99.


    I'm jonesing to get out on a pair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsavery View Post
    I'm confused. Don't the Pure 3 skis have metal in them already? And doesn't that ski sound like w99?
    They're vertically aligned stringers.

    http://www.dpsskis.com/blog/the-adve...-s-technology/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brianskis View Post
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    Salomon: full Din and AT compatibility, not just WTR ....
    looks like SAC will continue to dump sth2 for half the price

  18. #268
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    Quote Originally Posted by grskier View Post
    the new 105 under foot ski from DPS is more RC112 or XXL ish than the W112 or W99.
    Yep that would be what I fondled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skier666 View Post
    Moment has some mental graphics for next year...mullet rocker on more skis...additions to lineup...

    I'd love to share more but I'm sure the internet will do that for me.

    You mean like this:



    http://postimg.org/image/q3oqxai2t/

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    Quote Originally Posted by grskier View Post
    So, as I'm hearing it from the boys in the know, the new 105 under foot ski from DPS is more RC112 or XXL ish than the W112 or W99.
    That jives with what Marshal was asking me about over the summer. They're going for a burly stable damp non-powder freeride ski.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSkieur View Post
    Giggity. It's like a non-jibby, more traditional mount Death Wish for the backcountry. I like. What's the weight on these puppies?
    It almost makes me not want the Vicik Tours. Almost.

  22. #272
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    The DPS Wailer 105 will be back for 14/15 with a new sidecut, flex and rocker profile. It has tip rocker, slight camber underfoot and a flat tail. A distinctly different design objective than the W99 in both Pure 3 and Hybrid constructions. This will also be one of the models showcasing a new Hybrid construction.

  23. #273
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSkieur View Post
    Will you be able to purchase a Moment ski without all of this mullet mustache rigamarole in 14/15?

  24. #274
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    The newish mullet rocker is pretty sweet. I have it on this years Tahoe. Gives the ski life, stiffness and a wider feel at the same time. Easier to schmear turns yet still hold a SG turn on the firm piste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judo Chop! View Post
    Oh!
    Mount pattern info??
    No screws holes are in common with old 900 series. Same heel as Sth2 but new toe pattern.
    Click. Point. Chute.

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