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09-12-2013, 08:36 PM #26
Arc'Teryx's patent is here for anyone who wants to geek out over it.
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09-12-2013, 09:20 PM #27
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09-12-2013, 09:40 PM #28Registered User
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how much do other air bag packs weigh?
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09-13-2013, 12:21 AM #29
No, but I think Mammut may be stockpiling for their new disruptive, cat based solutions.
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09-13-2013, 01:29 AM #30
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09-13-2013, 01:38 AM #31
With time batteries may become smaller, lighter, (cheaper?). Whilst the ability to compress a certain required amount of air into an increasingly smaller/light cylinder has/will meet a limit.
Battery-fan operated is a future technology, and 2014/15 is only Round 1.
I'd love to see a demo. It is hard not to be sceptical.Last edited by neck beard; 09-13-2013 at 03:10 AM.
Life is not lift served.
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09-13-2013, 02:50 AM #32Registered User
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Meh. Just make a compressed air system in a nice pack BD. I'll buy it.
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09-13-2013, 04:22 AM #33
The laws of physics / chemistry also dictate how small a battery can become.
The main challenge for electric cars (for example) is making the battery small and light enough to make the range worthy.
It might be that compressed air ends up lighter and more reliable than a battery + motor + fan.
I want to be excited by this product - but some good questions above.
Suspect it is a long way off from hitting the market place.
Fairly amused by those who think the ability to trigger multiple times on one trip is a big selling point
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09-13-2013, 05:04 AM #34Banned
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fucking stupid
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09-13-2013, 05:21 AM #35
All noted. I guess what I needed to say was that there is currently a very strong commercial drive behind developing more efficient batteries (size/weight/charge). Many industries are working on it. Whilst in the meantime, I'm guessing, there are very few high R&D industries trying to get more air into a smaller/lighter cannister.
Life is not lift served.
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09-13-2013, 06:48 AM #36
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09-13-2013, 09:26 AM #37
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09-13-2013, 09:50 AM #38hanswurst
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"MSRP $960.00"?
last time i spoke with someone, they talked about cutting the existing pricepoints down to 300euros...
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09-13-2013, 09:54 AM #39
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09-13-2013, 10:22 AM #40
How is this not a big selling point? Generally when people get in slides they are in avalanche terrain. And generally to get back to safety you have to then cross a lot more avalanche terrain. Pretty cut and dry to me.
For instance the one big ride I got taken for was out sled skiing. After being caught in the slide while skiing and not getting buried (before airbag packs, but if I had one I would have pulled it) I then had to get back on my sled and drive probably 40km's back to my truck. Probably about 10 km's of it being crossing through various avalanche terrain. The ability to have a pack that could be re armed in that situation is a no brainer. If you were touring or hiking, same thing.
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09-13-2013, 10:24 AM #41
so, you're in the churn of a slide, and you trigger it...
the fan presumably has a filtered intake, but i'd love to see the inflation success rate in a river (or cloud) of snow
maybe not an issue at all...surely they've tested it, but i suspect the battery is not the most delicate part of the system, but rather the access to a fresh volume of air to inflate the bag quickly & reliably.
how does its performance change at different elevations and temperatures?
how long does it take to inflate/deflate cycle to be ready for a secondary event?
it could really be a game changer if it works as hoped for
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09-13-2013, 01:03 PM #42
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09-13-2013, 01:28 PM #43
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09-13-2013, 01:37 PM #44Banned
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09-13-2013, 02:03 PM #45
i do, thanks for the attention. i don't claim to be super rad or all-knowing, and i don't apologize for it either.
as is battery life, so what's your point?
btw, i enjoy your tgr web persona and don't get my tighties all bunched up by your insightful disdain - keep up the good work
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09-13-2013, 03:39 PM #46Registered User
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would you return to the mountain that buried you? or venture into other avalanche terrain miles from help? do you ever ski alone?
you're being pretty pessimistic today. and you aren't the one to talk shit.
This is an exciting product. We are all lucky to have all these gear companies sinking cash into making our passion more accessible, if not more safe. Sure there is risk, but we are all getting out there and our actions tell that it is worth it.mmmm, snow
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09-13-2013, 03:43 PM #47Hugh Conway Guest
what the does this do to make skiing more accessible? And if they've sunk all this money into making skiing more accessible why do so few people care?
acinpdx - battery life is commonly sacrificed to performance and weight with gadgets. that's my only point. it's all hype over something few who've seen are actually talking about though so who knows. the only "gamechanging" to me would be the less travel pita. but I don't, and won't, own one of these anyways. the multiple deployments in a single day scenario... not that gnar.
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09-13-2013, 03:53 PM #48Registered User
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In this case: accessibility = believe that we can venture into avalanche terrain more safely...
mmmm, snow
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09-13-2013, 03:54 PM #49Hugh Conway Guest
well that's fucking stupid, but it and the color coordinated gumby kids are clearly who BDs courting now, so probably right for the market.
ONLY ???? DAYS UNTIL WE MORTALS CAN HEAR ABOUT HOW AWESOME THIS PRODUCT WILL BE! WILL WE NEED TO RSVP FOR THE VIP LAUNCH AT BD HQ? Will there be gripping interviews of market babble to come?
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09-13-2013, 04:22 PM #50
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