Thread: Ass slapping back flop

Ass slaps and back flops. Why does the skiing world consider riding away from such ludacris landings legit? Snowboarding seems to have higher standards for their landings but why doesn't skiing do the same?

Sure you can huck big but when you back flop you can't be claiming anythig other than a big crash.

who's considering it legit? I don't know if you've seen any of the FTW events over the last few years but riders are getting penalized big time for anything but a perfect landing.

sure, some drops are big enough where it's almost necessary (Ligare's opening flip off the cliff at Jackson Hole in One for the Road, for example) but I don't think anyone is saying its a perfect landing by any means.

This thread is an ass flop. Fail WGAFF?

Originally Posted by String

Ass slaps and back flops. Why does the skiing world consider riding away from such ludacris landings legit? Snowboarding seems to have higher standards for their landings but why doesn't skiing do the same?

Sure you can huck big but when you back flop you can't be claiming anythig other than a big crash.

Reading this has changed my life. I feel like the veil has been lifted and now mine eyes can truly see. How something so obvious escaped the ski industry for over 40 years has me truly flummoxed!

Landing an air to your skis IS different than landing on your side or back!

Go forth String and spread the word!

i hate ludacris ass flops!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox-lfowevqA

^lol

You guys are funny! Is it really a massive front flip if you back slap and hot tub the landing. Impressive nonetheless but comeon. Srsly.

yes, because the actual front flip is in no way related to the landing. a massive front flip is NOT the same as sticking a massive front flip, but its still a front flip

The first time someone perfectly stomps a 100 footer, they'll be dead because they just put their knees through their skull.

But other than that, what is this? 2003?

Originally Posted by TahoeJ

But other than that, what is this? 2003?

"When you double the size of anything that anyone else has ever done before, I think you’re allowed to like slap on your side and then hop up as long as your skis stay on. Until someone else goes out there and stomps it cleaner I don’t think anyone has anything to say. When it comes to like stepping up and doing it, all it takes is sacking up. You could do it, too. All you have to do is try, you fuckin' pussy." -Jamie Pierre (RIP)

shit, that's a hell of a quote.

so I'm guessing ye'all know I dont ski ... anymore ...


but I dont give a sheet about a backslap, sideslap, or a tomahawke ...
but if buddy rides out of it ...

I call SHIT HOT !!!

and cheer loudly ...

ok I'm going out on a limb here ...

but stomps are like avalanches

no 2 are the same

how could I have mitigated the impact
why was it bigger than I expected
why am I hurting

clearly I shooda gone bigger ... eh?

jp quote - copy and paste!!

My guess is you're too big of a pussy to actually go big, and you're trying to make yourself feel better... grow a pair. Also, snowboarding isn't any different, they give dumb asses credit for "stomping" giant spins when they finished the last 360 on the ground.

I went out the other day and ass slapped a landing. So I tried again, and ass slapped again. My bindings hurt my cheek. So what? It was legit. At least more legit than spewing on the interweb about how it was not legit.

And just because you stomp something, don't mean you did it right. I stomped something, and skied down to my buddy. He was hooting, but my knees came up to my chin, and literally knocked the wind out of me. Kind of wish I had back slapped that one.

^^ I agree - if your skis stay on and you're able to ski away from it, it counts.

Originally Posted by TahoeJ

^^ I agree - if your skis stay on and you're able to ski away from it, it counts.

I've posted this before in another thread about the same dumb argument... I think Scot Schmidt was pretty bad ass. In "The Scot Schmidt Story" He said something about how being able to ski away without getting hurt and without losing gear is a success. Why not claim a SUCCESS?

If that mentality was good enough for him going as big as he did in his day, it's good enough for me. Going big and being able to ride away is a pretty darn good feeling. Claim it and be stoked about it.

People who nit pick pointless issues are not fun to ski with. Skiing with peeps who laugh, holler, send it and give props just for pushing yourself are the guys you want to spend time with on the mountain.

As was said, watch the freeride tours for stomping. You gotta stomp to get any contention points.

I think a lot of rockered skis are the culprit. When you have a hugely rockered tail, you backslap more.

If you hate on a check I doubt you have snow slipped many technical billy goat like lines in deep snow. Sometimes it's needed to break or the landing might be whack and trying to stomp is a really bad idea. For example, how about a real slow exit drop off a steep line say a 25 or 30 foot drop but it has a flat landing, super flat 15 feet away from the rock and the only deep and soft is in that first 15 feet. You just creep off the edge and land in the soft snow, stomping might result in some spinal compression so you might opt for a check. Is it ideal? No not really but some of the most fun and exciting lines for me have been like that. Sometimes you just want to fall off a big rock ya know?

Watch some old footage of Shane McConckey, he used those techniques all the time in technical billy goat lines.

When I see these posts I have to wonder how much experience the poster actually has riding in steep natural terrain and sending big cliff lines. Maybe you do and I'm just getting old. Honestly I couldn't tell you a name of any of this years ski movies off the top of my head and I have know idea any more who the pros are, I see a little but I don't pay too much attention. So what do I know?

I guess tho it all comes down to line choice and slapping or checking is not the in thing any more for filming and most movie segments have riders going for more flow and picking better smoother lines. Things have progressed for sure but for any skier that rides exciting natural terrain it's not always going to be perfect.

Originally Posted by RaisingArizona

When I see these posts I have to wonder how much experience the poster actually has riding in steep natural terrain and sending big cliff lines.

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I've said it before.
If a back slap or a side slap counts in skiing then a butt check counts in snowboarding.

And if a butt check counts in snowboarding, then I fucking rip!

As was said, watch the freeride tours for stomping. You gotta stomp to get any contention points.[/QUOTE]

I wonder if this was to curb the past trend of giant cliff hucking. By docking people for those kinds of landings probably helps keeping people that shouldn't be going huge from going huge. With Jaime and a few other people that was getting a little ridiculous.

Originally Posted by doughboyshredder

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I've said it before.
If a back slap or a side slap counts in skiing then a butt check counts in snowboarding.

And if a butt check counts in snowboarding, then I fucking rip!

A check on skis tho is more like initiating your turn half way through your drop. It works and it feels sweet. It's also a good technique if your over scary exposure and you want to make sure you stop on your landing.

Once again, if don't know what I'm talking about I doubt you have done a lot of steep billy goat lines.

Originally Posted by RaisingArizona

A check on skis tho is more like initiating your turn half way through your drop. It works and it feels sweet. It's also a good technique if your over scary exposure and you want to make sure you stop on your landing.

Once again, if don't know what I'm talking about I doubt you have done a lot of steep billy goat lines.

I don't ski, and my favorite hill is flat, so yeah, I don't have a clue........

Originally Posted by doughboyshredder

I don't ski, and my favorite hill is flat, so yeah, I don't have a clue........

I am old school. I don't think it works or looks very good for snowboarding and it's not the trend any more, I don't think the ski movie producers show lines like that any longer. I remember a McConckey interview where he said that his most favorite lines to ride never made it into the movies because they were to slow and probably included some checking.

i ski and hip check whenever at that hill

There's that quote from Hoji in Superheroes of Stoke where he talks about how Hugo was the master of straight up stomping huge airs and how many skiers are kneeing themselves in the face these days trying to live up to the standard he set.